[HPforGrownups] Testrals, Patroni, and Animagi

[Juli]

No: HPFGUIDX 146660



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a1) The consensus seems to be right now is that a Patronus can probably be seen by any wizard, even if it is a thestral-Patronus, unless it is sent to a specific person, in which case it can be seen only by the sender and the recipient(s).

  Juli: But how about when in GoF DD sends Hagrid a Patronus (scene with Barty Crouch Sr and Viktor Krum), Harry sees it. Also in HBP Tonks sends Hagrid a Patronus, Harry sees it and Snape takes it instead of Hagrid.
  
a2) A thestral (assuming it's a real thestral and not a Patronus) can be seen only by someone who has experienced death. Theodore Nott, I suspect, can see thestrals because his father is a Death Eater, so he has had the opportunity to witness somebody dying, probably rather nastily. (EEK! Do they off people in front of their own kids?)
   
  Juli:I don't think so. I think in Jo's site she says (correct me if I'm wrong) that Theo Nott saw his mother die. I don't think it's got anything to do with his dad being a death eater. Neville can also see the threstrals, so can Luna, and AFAWK neither one of them is related to a DE!

b1) For seeing a Patronus, see a1. Theodore Nott could probably see a Patronus, but we don't know, because nobody has offered to produce one when he is around.
   
  Juli: Perhaps they teach Patronus at the DADA NEWT classes? we know it's beyond Ordinarly Wizard Level (Lupin in PoA), so it could be a NEWT thing.

b2) I doubt Theodore Nott can produce a Patronus, it being a skill usually peculiar to very advanced wizards. Harry is a special case.

  Juli: I think he should be able to do it. He seems like a good wizard (he's taking the same NEWT classes as HArry). All it takes for a Patronus is a happy thought (and the skill). So I don't see why Theo couldn't cast one.
  
Then there is the rather gnarly issue of Patroni vs Animagi. I think everyone assumes, on the basis of James' Animagus form and Harry's Patronus, that if a wizard is an Animagus, his Animagus form and his Patronus are the same animal. But I'm not sure this is so. 

  Juli: I agree with you. The animagus form is your inner self, your personality, and the Patronus is a protective figure.
  
(a) Lupin isn't an Animagus (AFAIK), just a Werewolf, and we don't know for sure whether he can even produce a Patronus. Do we? Has he ever? On the train he used that hand-held flame to route the Dementors. 
   
  Juli: We don't know if it was just a flame. By then we didn't know anything about Patronus so it could have been a Patronus. As a member of the Order he must know how to since it's their means of communication (which makes me wonder, how does Figgy communicates?).
  
(b) Sirius in Animagus form is a dog, but I don't think we've seen him produce a Patronus either, so we don't know whether he can, or (if he can) if his Patronus is also a dog. 

  Juli: It would be some shape he founds protective... Who knows what it could be. I think it's hinted that he can produce one because in OoP he tells Harry that he would have enjoyed a fight with dementors. Also is PoA he says he could haven't gotten past the dementos without a wand.
  
(d) James' Animagus form is a stag; we don't see him produce a Patronus either; Harry does produce a stag Patronus, and thinks it's his dad, but in fact the stag Patronus is produced by Harry; we don't know whether Harry, at this point, has potential as an Animagus or not. 
   
  Juli: Jo says that neither Ron, Hermione or Harry will become an animagi, for me that's final.

(e) Tonks (if it is Tonks ;D) produces some sort of an animal 
Patronus which everyone assumes is a wolf because she's in love with Lupin, but we really don't know; heaven only knows what sort of animal, if any, Metamorphmagus Tonks is capable of turning into. 

  Juli: but do you think her protective figure would be herself?
  
 


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