[HPforGrownups] Odds and Ends

[Karen]

No: HPFGUIDX 146710


Richard here:

Schools may also change their rules, or amend them slightly, if
circumstance prove them either inappropriate or not sufficiently
flexible to handle the variable circumstances that arise.

kchuplis:

And you have to admit, when a parent can buy brooms for just ONE team at the
school, not for the school in its entirety, the rules are not hard and fast.
I sometimes think people also apply way too many "Americanisms" to Hogwarts.
The house system may work completely different than what we are used to.

Debbie:
No, I'm saying that Peter merely reported on what he overheard.  He wasn't a
spy in the sense of covertly infiltrating an organization.  He was merely an
informer, repeating things that he heard.

kchuplis:

If there was ever a personification of "nark" I think Peter is it (bothways.
I mean, is anyone indoubt it is OFH!Peter? No matter who eles is what?).
That's maybe a polite term for him. We could also say rat, tipster, fink,
snitch, squealer, stoolie.......

(I think Pippin):

There seems to be this idea that Peter's job as a spy would have been
easy. I say  balderdash! How easy do you think it would be to hide from
*your* closest friends that you'd joined a terrorist outfit and were now a
traitor? I think that would be hard even if your friends weren't counter-
terrorist experts and suspicous that someone in the outfit was a fink.

kchuplis

Only problem is that Peter doesn't really have friends. Peter has
protectors...of a sort. Even in the various glimpses we get at school, his
"friends" aren't very friendly to him. And granted, he is annoying as all
get out but still, he is not exactly buddies with any of the mauraders no
matter if they "protect" him (out of whatever reason).  He might be a tad
more interested in friends, and a bit closer to it than LV, but one thing
they have in common is "what's good for me is good for me." Peter just feels
a little bad about it when he betrays people. Not bad enough not to do it,
but he feels it a little bit anyway.

Debbie:
Compared to the animagus spell, blowing up the street can't have been too
hard.  I'm sure he didn't aim at all those muggles (the wand was behind his
back, so he couldn't see what he was aiming at), and that his finger was
severed *before* he yelled out in the street.  Really, this wasn't so
complicated as to be beyond the capabilities of a trained wizard.  Faking
his death was so successful he did it again.

kchuplis:
I think all he really needed to do was do a reducto at a gas line under the
street and voila. YOu are absolutely right that we saw Peter do a LOT of
complicated spells, in a short time or even simultaneously in PoA. He's no
klutz with spellwork. (Reminds me a lot of the fake "P_P_Poor
st-stuttutering P-PP-Professor Quirrell". People go on appearances of
behaviour and those behavin' use it to fool people - sometimes
subconsciously but often and certainly in these cases, consciously.)

Pippin:
Er, how does a dreadful sneak feign friendship for an entire year without a
qualm?


kchuplis:

Everything we have seen of Peter's "friendships" fall squarely under the
category of "pitiful sychophant". It's a pretty useful blanket cover. Now,
*why* James,Lupin and Sirius let Peter hang out with them is a mystery to
me, since they don't seem particularly fond of him at any point,  but I
guess we have all seen boy and girl groups like this, who, in general to
make them feel magnanamous or always have someone lowest on the totem pole
or whatever, keep this member around. IMO, Peter is not the "Neville" of the
group. I think Harry and friends really are fond of Neville. Even Luna has
become "endearing". I never got that impression from anything we have seen
so far of Peter and the mauraders.

maria816200 (on the MoM):

 In short, more like what they did in VW1, (rounding up the DE when
Voldemort was vanguish/gone) or after the battle in the MOM in the OOTP.
They are good at that picking up the wasted/defenseless DEs. The MOM doesn't
do the hard fight/work, what they do is, let the brave and the courageous do
the hard and messy job and when it's over, MoM will just clean up the
litters.

kchuplis:

And take whatever credit they possibly can in the aftermath.