[HPforGrownups] Re: The Evil of Voldemort; Lily's choice

[Andrea Grevera]

No: HPFGUIDX 146792



  --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com<mailto:HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>, "Andrea Grevera" 
  <agdisney at m<mailto:agdisney at m>...> wrote:
  > 
  >   Maybe Voldy wanted to see if all mothers were the same.  His 
  mother, in his eyes, selfishly gave up her life and left Voldy to 
  the orphanage.  LV expected Lily be selfish too and to stand aside 
  and save her life.  Instead Lily did what Merope wouldn't or 
  couldn't, she gave up her life so she could protect the life of her 
  son and in doing so brought LV down with her.

  Tonks:

  I don't think that LV's mother "gave" her life. (JKR said that when 
  Lily died for Harry, that no one had ever done that before.) LV's 
  mother just died from the compactions of childbirth. At the time of 
  Tom's birth women could still die in childbirth. She may have been 
  weak from malnutrition and the stress of being homeless.  Just 
  because she was a witch doesn't mean that she could beat death. This 
  is, of course, what her son tries to do. No doubt his mother's death 
  had an impact on him. Probably a "what if" sort of thing. I am sure 
  that it contributed to his twisted mentality somehow.  But the point 
  here is that Merope didn't "give" her life, she just died.

  Tonks_op

  Andie again:

  I'm sorry to disagree, but I don't think that Merope just died.
  Pg 262 US.  "But she could do magic!"...Merope refused to raise
  her wand even to save her own life.
  "She wouldn't even stay alive for her son?"
  "Merope Riddle chose death in spite of a son who needed her"...

  That doesn't sound like she died of complications of childbirth.
  Her son or life didn't matter once Tom Sr. left her.  She chose to
  die because she didn't want to go on.  Lily chose to die to save 
  her son.






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