Re: Lord Voldemort's Six Horcruxes? Are Dumbledores Opinions Wrong? (LVs SHADOW)
chrusotoxos
heos at virgilio.it
Mon Jan 23 20:03:27 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 146907
Interesting theory, but I don't like the idea that your appearance
becomes horcux-like with time...we don't see LV looking like a cup
or a ring, do we?
IMO, his snake-like traits are there to show his descent towards
spiritual hell, and the least human animal is, in judeo-christian
culture, the snake.
At this point, LV knows that Harry is a powerful enemy; he wouldn't
fight him without the protection of a magical number.
What do you say?
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "esmith222002" <c.john at i...>
wrote:
>
> According to DD, Voldemort has made six Horcruxes and he
confidently
> identifies four of these Horcruxes.
> 1. Diary (destroyed)
> 2. Slytherin's ring (destroyed)
> 3. Slytherin's necklace
> 4. Hufflepuff's cup
>
> DD then uses guesswork to predict that another Horcrux must be an
> object of Ravenclaw's (Horcrux 5). DD is also confident that
> Voldemort was intending to make the final Horcrux with Harry's
death.
> `
I am sure that he was intending to make his final Horcrux with
> your death.
> As we know he failed. After an interval of some years, however, he
> used Nagini to kill an old Muggle man, and it might have occurred
to
> him to turn her into his last Horcrux
' P473 HBP
> DD therefore predicts that Horcrux 6 must have been Nagini.
>
> However, let us look at the timeline for the creation of
Voldemort's
> Horcruxes. If we consider Voldemort during the chapter `Lord
> Voldemort's request' in HBP.
> `
Voldemort had entered the room. His features were not those
Harry
> had seen emerge from the great stone cauldron almost two years
> before; they were not as snakelike, the eyes were not yet scarlet,
> the face not yet masklike, and yet he was no longer handsome Tom
> Riddle. It was as though his features had been burned and blurred;
> they were waxy and oddly distorted, and the whites of the eyes now
> had a permanently bloody look, though the pupils were not yet the
> slits that Harry knew they would become
' P413 HBP
>
> At this point, it is safe to assume that Voldemort has made his
first
> four Horcruxes. He has certainly gained all four objects by this
> point and he looks considerably different to the Tom Riddle who
> called on Hepzbiah Smith. It is also important to note, that he
does
> not look snakelike at this point.
>
> In terms of the timeline, the next time we get a physical
description
> of Voldemort is at the end of PS/SS.
> `Where there should have been a back to Quirrel's head, there was
a
> face, the most terrible face Harry had ever seen. It was chalk
white
> with glaring red eyes and slits for nostrils, like a snake.'
P212
> PS/SS
> So Voldemort has now gained his snakelike appearance.
>
> So ,in terms of Horcruxes, what happens between the events of
`Lord
> Voldemort's request' from HBP and `The Man with Two Faces' in
PS/SS.
> 1. Voldemort makes a fifth Horcrux.
> 2. Voldemort enters Godric's Hollow with the intention of
making
> his 6th Horcrux.
> 3. Voldemort loses his physical body, and lives a spectral
> existence until his appearance on the back of Quirrel's head.
> Therefore, when Voldemort appears with Quirrel, logic suggests
that
> Voldemort only has 5 Horcruxes. Voldemort only had 5 when he
entered
> Godric's Hollow, and has not been in a position to make another
> Horcrux since this point.
> VOLDEMORT'S SNAKELIKE FEATURES ARE THEREFORE COMPLETELY
ATTRIBUTABLE
> TO HORCRUX 5!!
> IMO, DD was wrong. Nagini was made a Horcrux before the events at
> Godric's Hollow not after them. It is the Nagini Horcrux that
> gives Voldemort his snakelike appearance. Nagini is Horcrux 5.
>
> So what of Horcrux 6? I do not believe that there is a Horcrux 6
as
> yet. I believe that Voldemort was trying to secure the prophecy in
an
> attempt to make it his final Horcrux. On learning of the
prophecy's
> destruction, Voldemort attempts to kill Harry this does not
tally
> with the theory that Voldemort wanted to use the prophecy to learn
> how to destroy Harry.
>
> With DD gone, I would assume that Voldemort will now turn his
> attention to the `item of Gryffindor's' and attempt to procure the
> sword (or hat) from Hogwarts. Perhaps we may even witness the
Horcrux
> making process in book 7 (hopefully unsuccessfully!).
>
> Brothergib
>
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