ESE!Lupin condensed

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jan 24 01:24:43 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 146932

> Ginger begins:
> Greetings, Pippin (and all who have interest),
> 
> As you may know, I have followed ESE!Lupin with great interest, and I 
> believe I have read most of what has been written on the subject.  If 
> I am misunderstanding or retreading, please accapt my apologies.
> 
> I may be confused by unclear pronouns here, but you said:
> (Pippin)
> >  Lupin was instrumental in the prank, as Snape suspected. After he
> > left Hogwarts, Lupin joined the Order. Needing an alias to hide 
> > behind while working undercover with the werewolves, he used the 
> > name Wormtail. 
> 
> Later you said:
> (Pippin)
> > Lupin then settled for arranging Peter's escape, knowing he would
 transform as they were enroute [to] the castle, calling the 
 dementors away from the gates and once again endangering
Harry. He then forced Peter to return to Voldemort and cooperate in 
 the rebirthing scheme. It was he, AKA "Wormtail"  who killed Cedric.
> 
> Now for my confusion:
> (Ginger)
> 
> Do you mean to propose that Lupin was in the Graveyard, acting under 
> the name of Wormtail?  IOW, it was not Peter who was there at all, 
> but rather a cloaked and hooded Lupin?

Pippin:
Not quite. Pettigrew was at the graveyard, and did all the things which
Harry saw him do. But Harry did not see the killing of Cedric. He was
lying on the ground with his hands over his face. He heard "a swishing
noise and a second voice, which screeched the words to the night:
'*Avada Kedavra!*'" I don't think it was Peter who did the killing.

The killing curse is not  easy to use, from what Bella and Fake!Moody
tell us.  Draco, knowing his life depends on it, having tried twice
to commit murder already, hesitates and eventually fails. I don't think
Peter is a killer.

 I think someone else was in the graveyard that night to make sure 
Peter followed instructions and to deal with contingencies such as
the wrong triwizard champion's arrival. I don't think Voldemort
would want to confront  a powerful young wizard in his weakened 
state with only Wormtail to support him.

JKR did say that Wormtail did the killing in the World Book Day chat. 
Rorujin: Did Wormtail used Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric? 
Is it why Cedric comes out of Voldemort's wand even though 
was Wormtail who killed him?
JK Rowling replies -> Correct!

Since the name Wormtail is false,  the question of how Snape
recognized the Marauder nicknames when he saw them on the
map in PoA is still open,  there are multiple characters with
common names, and JKR has told us that she can't be full and
frank with us until Book Seven is out, I don't think we can assume
this chat answer is as definitive as some would like it to be.

The battered worn case that identifies Lupin on the Hogwarts
Express   may be another dual identity clue. It's possible that 
there was another "Professor RJ Lupin" and Lupin's case originally 
belonged to him. We have a lot of people in canon who are
blindly trying to be like their fathers, whether it is appropriate
for them or not. Lupin might be another, dreaming of being
a teacher like his father was and finding it hard to accept that his
condition makes it a risk most wizards aren't willing to face.


Pippin







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