ESE!Lupin condensed and Lupin and Sirius replies

olivierfouquet2000 olivier.fouquet+harry at m4x.org
Wed Jan 25 08:30:18 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 147018

> Neri:
>In comparison,
> ESE!Lupin doesn't solve any official mysteries. There is practically
> no need for it except that it would be bangy. 

Olivier
Not only does it solve only non-mysteries, it suddenly generates a flurry of new mysteries. 
Lupin has had a dozen opportunities to act as a magnificent agent of Voldemort and he 
did not.

To name but a few, he could have killed Sirius or delivered him to the Dementors at any 
point during the Shrieking Shack event. no one would have blamed him, he might even be 
the first werewolf to gain an order of Merlin first class and a thank you note from LV. He 
could have helped Peter find  and take care of LV, and if he did, LV shows very poor 
gratitude in the graveyard (the argument about not blowing out Lupin's cover his feeble, 
LV blew Lucius' cover and Lucius is a very useful spy in the Ministry during OoP, arguably 
LV's most useful DE : his cover rested solely on Fudge's disbelief of Harry). He could have 
let Harry throw himself through the veil (JKR insists numerous times that Harry fights 
"viciously" and "with every bit of strength" against Lupin and that Lupin later maintains a 
"precautionary grip" on Harry). We don't know what happens exactly when one jumps 
through the veil, but it can't be too good. Again, the argument "LV wants HP for himself" is 
very feeble (and thus a hint that Snape is not entirely devoted to LV): Snape is the only one 
that seems to believe this, all the other DE are quite keen to kill Harry.

Bella is very suspicious of Snape (and for good reasons). Based on what we know, she 
should be even more suspicious of Lupin: he has done even less than Snape for LV during 
OoP, he cannot even boast about informations, since he had none to offer about DD and 
joined the last battle... but on the wrong side. The way the battle is told, forces are about 
evenly matched before DD arrives, so Bella, while right to suspect Snape, should be 
infuriated by Lupin. Then, again, he fought on DD's side at the end of HBP, another 
situation where forces seemed evenly matched. If Snape, LV's most useful spy, thought the 
time had come to reveal himself, why didn't Lupin? At least, Snape manages to knock 
Flitwick down without blowing his cover (and that was a master move, seeing as Flitwick 
was a dueling champion, Hermione dixit, and a most powerful wizard in Harry's opinion 
"Harry was certain [
] Flitwick could have removed the swamp in an instant"). What did 
Lupin: according to the testimonies of various person (including Harry), his presence 
avoided disaster. Tonks says the Order was losing, imagine with one Order member down 
and one DE up (not to mention that Lupin, Cedric's killer remember, the Muggles killer, 
remember could at least have killed one or two members by stabbing them in the back).

> > Pippin:
> > I  think that if the body of the deceased has fresh
> > blood on it a considerable interval of time after it's supposed
> > to have died of a curse that doesn't leave any trace --
> > well, if that's not meant to be a clue, then JKR *is* a 
> > terrible mystery writer. 
> > 
> 
> Neri:
> If that's not meant to be a clue, then JKR is perhaps a terrible
> mystery writer in Agatha Christy's standards. But is she writing a
> Christy style mystery? 

In my opinion, JKR is indeed a terrible mystery writer. However, she is im my opinion a 
superb writer of Bildungsroman. In the journey from childhood to adulthood, an 
adolescent is confronted to mysteries (who was his father? what is this strange force that 
seems to have been unleashed now that I'm a teenager?). This explains the mystery 
element of the series. But the emphasis is not there. Not *who* but *how*.

Olivier








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