Was the eavesdropper unimportant to Harry? WAS: Re: Snape again
dumbledore11214
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Wed Jan 25 19:50:59 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147038
> Carol responds:
> Yes, of course. He'd have been *surprised* if it was anyone he knew.
> But it's only when Harry knows it's *Snape* that the eavesdropper
role
> becomes *significant* to him.
Alla:
I agree with SSSusan and Jenn. I don't doubt that the fact
that "eavesdropper" is Snape made Harry hate him more, but I disagree
that eavesdropper becomes significant ONLY because it is Snape. IMO
eavesdropper becomes significant WHEN he gets a name, ANY name. Of
course the fact that his name is Snape, makes Harry more upset for
various reasons already described.
Carol:
SNIP>
> If the eavesdropper had been Lucius Malfoy, Harry's reaction would
> have been, "I knew it! He's evil!" And then he would have let it go
> because it did nothing to change his mental picture fo Draco's
father.
> If it had been Mundungus Fletcher, he would have said, "That
scumbag!
> Dumbledore should never have let him into the Order!" But it would
not
> have been personal. Harry would not have gone ballistic and accused
> Dung of *murdering* his parents. He would have remembered that it
was
> *Voldemort* who killed them and PP who betrayed them. The anger
would
> have been temporary, as it was when he discovered Dung with goods
> stolen from 12 GP, and the eavesdropper role would have retained its
> relative insignificance.
<SNIP>
Alla:
That is probably my main disagreement with your argument. We do NOT
know how Harry would have reacted if eavesdropper had different name,
we only had a chance to see Harry's reaction to Snape. IMO of course
For all I know, Harry would have gone just as ballistic if he
discovered that eavesdropper was Dung and actually example with
stolen goods shows IMO that he would have gone ballistic, because
when Harry sees Dung with "stolen glasses" that is much LESSER
insults to Sirius' memory than what Snape did by giving prophecy to
Voldemort and Harry is still very upset.
I submit that eavesdropper became more significant when he got a
name, but of course that his name is Snape was an extra insult to
Harry.
JMO,
Alla
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