Re: Lord Voldemort's Six Horcruxes? Are Dumbledore’s Opinions Wrong? (LVs SHADOW

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 147104

Brothergib wrote:
> Interesting, but Voldemort is not snakelike when he reemerges from 
> his long 'exile' when he conversed with 'the very worst of our kind'. 
> I think we can safely assume that when Voldemort met with DD at 
> Hogwarts, he had four Horcruxes, so was already fairly safe from 
> death. Why would he then start using snake venom to protect his 
> physical body? Protect it from what? It was clearly ineffective 
> against the Avada Kedavra!

Carol:
I agree that LV had not yet made Nagini into a Horcrux when he had the
DADA interview. But are you sure that he was actually recruiting
followers other than his few old friends at that point? Maybe he still
had some traveling to do--and some Horcruxes to make. And he could
have made Nagini a Horcrux at any time between that interview and
Godric's Hollow. He could easily have had the fifth (Ravenclaw)
Horcrux as well, with Nagini as the sixth. (I think it's that small
point on which DD is wrong; he thinks that Nagini was made into a
Horcrux after Voldemort's body was restored, but I thinkit had to be
sooner.)

You say that he wasn't snakelike when he returned from his travels,
but you're assuming that his travels were over when he had the DADA
interview. But do we know when that interview occurred? How long or
short a time passed between that interview and the beginning of VW1?
Even if that interview (when his features were blurred and he had
created at least four Horcruxes) occurred immediately before VW1
began, he still had eleven years to go before Godric's Hollow--plenty
of time for more murders and more Horcruxes.

I think he must have been snakelike (as the result of Nagini as
Horcrux) before Godric's Hollow for two reasons. First, the DEs in the
graveyard scene don't react at all to his appearance. This is
Voldemort restored, Voldemort as they knew him. And second, the face
that appears out of Quirrell's head in SS/PS is snakelike. At that
point, Quirrell is drinking unicorn blood to sustain his master, but
snake venom only comes into the picture when its used to create his
fetal body and provide "milk" for baby!mort.

As I said in an earlier thread, she must already have been a Horcrux
when Pettigrew found him if he could use her venom to restore
Voldemort's body. And Voldie was in no shape to create a Horcrux
himself between his vaporization and PP's finding him in Albania
(including the interval in Quirrell's head). He didn't even have a
wand, and a wand is required to create a Horcrux. So, IMO, it had to
have happened before Godric's Hollow.

Carol, not sure that she's arguing clearly here, but sure that Nagini
was a Horcrux *before* Godric's Hollow