VA/H=Mx13+RP? Snape's Culpability?
horridporrid03
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Fri Jan 27 23:32:42 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147148
> >>Alla:
> <snip>
> Of course for DE Snape it would be a natural impulse to pass the
> information to Voldemort. I am just not getting how it makes him
> less culpable. Yes, he did passed the Prophecy to his boss, but
> the boss is the bad guy, REALLY bad guy, so if the argument is
> something along the lines that Snape did not know that the
> murderous evil maniac will act upon the information that the
> child would be born who can defeat him, as murderous evil maniac
> would act? I just don't see at all how Snape could not have known
> that. I am NOT buying stupid Snape and I am also not sure how
> Carol's argument fits into the picture at all.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
Ah, but you are buying the mustache twirling bad guy, I think. The
thing is, the bad guys don't think they're the bad guys. Remember,
Snape was working for Voldemort while Regulus was working for
Voldemort. This was when Voldemort's popularity was at its zenith
(per Lupin, IIRC) so this is when Voldemort was at his most
charismatic and charming.
So Snape wouldn't have had to be full on stupid to not see Voldemort
as a "murderous, evil maniac". He just had to be a touch naive, and
perhaps, a touch vulnerable. Voldemort wasn't running around
killing babies and eating puppies, he was fighting a "righteous war"
to bring the WW back into its "glory days" or some such thing. (Per
Lucius.)
Snape had bought the party line, as Regulus had. It was only when
you got so far into the inner-circle that the killing babies and
eating puppies part of the equation became clear. (I'm not sure how
far "in" is, but Regulus was a Death Eater for a certain period of
time before he learned of methodologies that turned him and his
folks off Voldemort.)
And, as I believe Steve and Brady have pointed out, there was
nothing in the part of the Prophecy Snape heard to suggest that an
actual baby was involved. It kind of sounded like a champion was
being called forth, two equals meeting on a field of battle.
Nothing shameful in that, nor in giving your side a heads-up that
the other side already had.
Snape *was* culpable in falling for the "glory days" stuff. I think
he should have known better. Especially as the son of a muggle and,
as I suspect, a former friend of a muggle-born. I also wouldn't be
surprised if Snape didn't have twinges of suspicion that something
was rotten in the state of Voldemort. Hence his deep remorse (as I
suspect).
*But*, this culpability *pales* in comparison to Peter turning his
friends over to the butcher and helping bring their baby in for the
feast. Peter *knew* this was about baby killing. And he knew he
was setting his best friend up to die. The only mitigating factor
would be if he was tortured and broken. And that's a slight bit of
mitigation there, IMO. Because Peter had to actively campaign and
manipulate, I believe, to gain the role of Secret Keeper.
Betsy Hp
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