back to Blacks was Re: Snape and DD

[lagattalucianese]

No: HPFGUIDX 147306

> 
> Lolita:
> 
...
> 
> I would really like to know whether Snape was always the one 
attacked. 
> Somehow, I can't imagine him as an innocent victim who only 
defended 
> himself... He *did* invent those curses, after all. Even one of 
those 
> used on him. And he must have been the first one to use it, as he 
> *was* the one who invented it.
> 
La Gatta Lucianese:

I'm sure Snape gave as good as he got; he says in HBP.28 that James 
never dared attack him unless it was four to one. But I'd bet my 
buckled booties that the Marauders were the ones to start it. Snape 
just looked like such easy meat, this geeky, brainy, antisocial, 
undergrown, homely kid with no particular friends or supporters.
> 
> ...and being stuck with 15 year-olds or people (at least) 
> twice his age for better part of 15ish years didn't help Snape's 
> emotional maturation either. 
> 
> ...And let's not forget that, according to Sirius, Snape used 
> to hang out (in his first year only, given their respective ages) 
with 
> dear cousin Bellatrix... Judging from Sirius's love for her, I 
would 
> say that this would put him off Snape for certain, if nothing else 
> did. And it's not like there was nothing else...
> 
La Gatta Lucianese:

But given the age difference, and more particularly the relationship 
between Snape and Bellatrix that we see in HBP.2, I doubt there was 
any love lost there. I suspect Snape hung out with that "Slytherin 
gang" more for protection and because he didn't have anybody else 
than from close friendship. The poor kid really seems not to have had 
much of anybody close to him throughout his school years.
> 
> Finally, I don't believe that Snape and Sirius were related. Snape 
> doesn't come across as somebody who has any connections with the 
upper 
> crust of the society such as the Blacks. He strikes me more as a 
> social climber, with churlish manners and general bad behaviour. 
> Compare him to the Malfoys, and you'll get the idea. He is simply 
not 
> in their league. His mother's family seem to have been nobodies.... 
> 
> Lolita.
>
La Gatta Lucianese:

But this could also be the case if Snape grew up in poverty because 
his mother was a pure-blood in disgrace and his father was a Muggle. 
Given Eileen's "cross and sullen" nature (HBP.25), Severus may well 
have been closer to his father than his mother, and picked up blue-
collar Muggle behavior from him. (Been there, done that, but my 
father was a scholar and a gentleman, so I turned out better than 
poor Severus.)

Come to think of it, why do we assume that the scene from Harry's 
childhood that Harry legilimensed (OotP.26) was Harry's *father* (if 
it was his father) being abusive? (Yeah, yeah, I know, the assumption 
is that in cases like this, it's always the man's fault until proven 
otherwise, right?) How do we know that little Severus wasn't crying 
over something his *mother* had done to him that his father was 
furious with her about? As for Eileen "cowering", any manipulative 
woman has *that* tactic down cold. I've watched my mother goad my 
father until he was almost blind with fury (often over something 
abusive she'd done to me), and then when she thought she could gain 
the highest psychological upper hand, turn on the tears, pull 
the "helpless little woman being yelled at", and put all the wrong on 
him.