Look of triumph in Dumbledore's eye
girl_loves_her_coffee
iowagirl681 at mchsi.com
Wed Jul 5 02:19:10 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154917
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "felix_quinn"
<felix_quinn at ...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure this must have been covered before, but I thought I'd
bring
> it up in hopes of fresh ideas and theories.
> Is there any popular theory regarding the look of triumph in
> Dumbledore's eyes at the end of GOF?
> So then, what does it mean? I suppose the most natural
> assumption is that Dumbledore suspected Voldemort might do
something
> like use Harry's blood for resurrection, (or at least try) and
might
> have figured out some way for this to be beneficial to the Order
and
> their cause. Could it be possible that by doing this, Voldemort has
> opened the doorway to his own demise by way of some method that
would
> not have been applicable if he had NOT used Harry's blood?
>
>
I think I read some discussion of this many many moons ago, but I
don't think I've seen much recently. As for "popular" theories, I
don't know, but I personally think like you do, that Dumbledore
realized that in using Harry's blood, Voldemort had done SOMETHING
to aid in his own downfall. I have some brief ideas on that:
#1 - Is there an established "magical" principle that governs the
use of Harry's blood?
Snape told Harry during the first Occlumency lesson that "Time and
space matter in magic, Potter."(p531 OotP US ed.); I took that to
mean that it's sort of a "law of physics" to the magical world.
The fact that Harry's "mental" connection to Voldemort strengthened
considerably after the events in the graveyard makes me wonder if
Harry's blood being in Voldemort is what strengthened that
connection - or if the connection just naturally became stronger
because Harry and Voldemort seem to strengthen in tandem. (Voldemort
is obviously stronger now, as he's got a body.)
Is the blood now making what was a mental connection between them a
physical connection - breaching the element of space?
#2 - Is the use of Harry's blood going to be something new and
unheard of?
Snape followed-up with what he told Harry during the first
Occlumency lesson that "The usual rules do not seem to apply with
you, Potter."(p531 OotP US ed.)
Dumbledore's explanation of the Prophecy(pp509-512 HBP US ed.)
seems to indicate that it's only true because Voldemort chooses to
believe it. Throughout the entire series, every move Voldemort makes
with regard to Harry is something like treating the symptoms without
treating the cause of the illness. Every time Voldemort tries to do
Harry in, the result is unexpected, unheard of, even ground-breaking
with regard to what we know of the rules of magic, and he always
makes it worse on himself.
#3 - Is it a combination of both theories?
My comment that Harry and Voldemort seem to get stronger in tandem
is sort of my third theory. That Voldemort gave Harry some of his
powers when the AK backfired, is discussed both on p.333 SS US ed.
and touched on again during the conversation between Harry and
Dumbledore on pp. 509-512 HBP US. ed. That whole concept makes me
believe that the blood is the same sort of thing. In trying to kill
Harry - Voldemort put something of himself in Harry and in taking
something from Harry, he will end up killing himself.
Along those lines, I mentioned early on that I see Harry and
Voldemort as strengthening in tandem. (JKR's words in her interview
on tele last week seem to support that.) Is that a naturally
occuring process (Harry strengthens as he grows up ("trains-up a
bit" as Hagrid put it) and Voldemort has slowly been regaining his
old strength. OR is the fact that Voldemort took Harry's blood going
to have the reverse effect that Voldemort thought? Causing Harry to
strenthen even more than usual as Voldemort get stronger? Voldemort
thought he was taking into himself, some magical property from Harry
(and it worked to some extent because "I can touch you now") but has
he also granted Harry some access to his own powers that will enable
Harry to defeat/destroy him? (I don't like to think of Harry
actually "killing")
Okay - so that's all rather FAR from brief, and in a nutshell - I
don't think why the "gleam of triumph" is important - but I think it
means the blood is important and I have no idea why.
iowagirl
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