Hermione and Marietta

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 154978

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> wrote:
>
>  
> > > Allie:
> > > 
> > > Am I the ONLY one who thinks that all Marietta has to
> > > do is *apologize* and Hermione will lift the hex/curse?
> > > ...
> > >
> > Renee:
> > No, you're not the only one. ... Perhaps Hemione is just
> > waiting for Marietta to acknowledge her fault. That's why
> > I see no reason to condemn Hermione (yet) for not removing
> >  it. 
> 
> Pippin:
> The canon for Marietta being memory charmed:
> "Unfortunately, I had to hex Kingsley too, or it would 
> have looked very suspicious," said Dumbledore in a low 
> voice. "He was remarkably quick on the uptake, modifying
> Miss Edgecombe's memory like that while everyone was 
> looking the other way--thank him for me, won't you, 
> Minerva?" ch 27 OOP
> 
> I am amazed that Hermione's defenders think her self-esteem
> is so low that it needs to be bolstered by an apology from  
> a person who can't remember what she did. I would think far
> better of Hermione for committing the typical teenage 
> blunder of not considering the long range consequences 
> ...big edit...
> 
> Pippin
>

bboyminn:

We can make fair speculations on who, what, when, where, and why
things are happening, but let's not get carried away. 

We don't know the exact details or Marietta' memory charm. Yes, her
memory was sufficienlty modified that she couldn't or wouldn't give
testimony to Umbridge and Fudge, but, because of the Spots, she was
already reluctant to give testimony, so we don't know how much more
memory modification it took to solidifiy her resolve NOT to testify.
So, yes, she was memory charmed but we don't know to what extent nor
do we know the exact nature of the charm. 

We don't know the nature of the 'Spots' Hermione's charm caused. They
may eventually fade away on their own. Notice in the latest books,
Marietta is no longer hiding her face, she is now covering the Spots
with make-up. That could imply that the spots are getting better.
While I have no proof one way or the other, we can't say with absolute
certainty that the spots won't go away on their own. 

We also can't say one way or the other that once Madam Pomfrey or St.
Mungo's knows how the spots were created, the removal will be easy.

Further, the story isn't over yet. Hermione could very well decide
that her point was made, and that given current circumstances, petty
slights like being a snitch aren't that important. Feeling that it is
far more important to have all hands on deck and every available
person on their side, Hermione might just remove the Spots.

Finally, let us not go overboard. Hermione did not take Marietta's
legs off, nor blind her, nor remove her arms, or anything of the sort;
she gave her acne. Marietta's not scarred for life, she is not
disfigured, she is not crippled; she simply has a few zits. Let's not
let this get out of perspective.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn