Evil Hermione

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 154984

Alla wrote:
> Why am I not talking about the book, when I am speculating about 
> potential consequences Umbridge could have forced upon DA members?
> 
> Now ** of course** this is speculation, but this is **canon-based** 
> speculation, no?
> 
> We ** know** about what Umbridge does to people who resist her. 
> Granted, mainly on the example of Harry, but not only because her 
> Decrees are written towards all students.
> 
> So, when I am saying that based on the **fact** that Harry was put 
> in front of Wizengamot and based on the **fact** that Umbridge was 
> about to put Cruciatus on Harry, do a bodily damage on Fred and 
> George, she **could** have put all DA members in front of Wizengamot 
> and/or physically hurt them, is it ** so** far fetched to think that 
> Umbridge could have done that?
> 
> Not to me. Why? Because Umbridge **already** did those things to 
> people who resist her and what do DA members did? Resisted her, 
> right?
> 
> So, to me I am talking about stuff that definitely could have  
> happened. I am **speculating** but based on similar circumstances 
> that happened in canon already.

Carol responds:
Canonically, Umbridge seems satisfied with merely expelling Harry (and
delighted when Dumbledore takes the responsibility for the "Army" on
himself). Umbridge makes no effort to punish the students after that.
Had dumbledore not stepped in, she might well have expelled Harry and
broken his wand, but I don't think she'd have done anything to the
other members--who, BTW, included Marietta. Possibly, she'd have given
each of them a detention involving writing "I will not join illegal
organizations" with her cruel quill, but she didn't do it, and
Marietta could not have anticipated such a punishment in any case.
(I'm *not* defending Umbridge, whom I loathe.)

While we know enough about Umbridge to speculate about what she might
have done, Marietta has no such knowledge. She probably knows that
Harry has received multiple detentions for "spreading lies," but she
can have no idea what Umbridge did to him. Nor would she have known
about Harry's trial, which was not publicized.

Carol, for whom Marietta is a tattletale, not a criminal