Accidental Harrycrux : a theory

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 155299

In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ken Hutchinson" <klhutch at ...>
wrote:
>
> No, you don't understand what Mike is saying.
<snip>
> Consider Hermione's curse on the membership list for Dumbledore's
> Army. She cast the spell before anyone ratted on the group,
possibly
> before anyone even signed the parchment. The spell on the list was
> able to sense that someone on the list had broken the promise, it
was
> able to identify who that person was, and it was able to mark her
with
> pimples. The spell on the parchment is dormant and it goes into
action
> if/when/and-only-if someone who signed the list betrays the group.
> Quite a bit of intelligence for a simple piece of parchment!
>
> The horcrux spell *could* work in a similar fashion, this is *all*
> speculation of course since we know next to nothing about how JKR
> pictures that this works. You put a spell on Hufflepuff's cup, for
> example, that connects it to your soul and enables it to grab a
piece
> of your soul, if/when/and-only-if your soul is ever split. It is
> perfectly logical that this could be done before you commit a
murder
> and tear your soul. Then, when you actually do commit a murder one
of
> the torn pieces of your soul automatically gets sucked into the
> horcrux object. No further action is required on your part. You do
> have to cast the horcrux spell in order to create a horcrux but you
> don't necessarily have to cast it *after* the murder that splits
your
> soul. We just don't know for sure; until JKR issues a ruling on the
> matter one is as plausible as the other.

Mike:
Thank you Ken, you explained my theory better than I did! Good
analogy to Hermione's jinxed DA membership list. Considering how JKR
likes to reuse plot devices, well, makes the idea more plausible.

But I also agree that unless Harry is a Horcrux and JKR chooses to
explain exactly how it happened, we'll never know the mechanism for
creating Horcruxes. Even if she gives an explanation it may be
nothing more than rudimentary. I think that's part of the genious of
JKR's writing, she gives us all of these intriguing story parts
without tying us to only one possibile explanation, giving us plenty
to debate about.

<snip>
> > Mike:
> > Interesting..., add the Sorting Hat to that mix. Are you thinking
> > the Marauders found some way to create a low-voltage non-soul
> > Horcrux (without killing, I hope)?
<snip>
> Carol responds:
> I'm not suggesting that the Marauder's Map is a Horcrux, which
> requires an act of murder to create and which exists to keep the
> murderer's soul on earth so he can't be killed.

Mike:
Low-voltage, non-soul, without-killing Horcrux. I guess I shouldn't
have called it a Horcrux, since I did call it non-soul and without
killing, my apologies. So let's call the Marauder's Map a
personality possessing parchment (how's that alliteration?),with the
ability to interact with the maker's personalities. I was just
wondering if the Sorting Hat is similarly endowed and whether one
could access thoughts of the founders. Can the hat do anything else
besides sort and recite poetry? JKR did say the founders will be in
play in book 7. Is it just that LV used their former possessions as
Horcruxes, or do we/HRH get something from them?