[HPforGrownups] Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture

[Jordan Abel]

No: HPFGUIDX 155327

> Jennathasania:
> As Carol said above,
> raping a prostitute can't be justified in any way, shape, or form by saying
> that she was lustful (also classified as a deadly sin), and therefore asking
> for it by dressing in a provokative way or soliciting Johns on the side of
> the road.

Excellent proof by analogy. The only problem is you forgot the key
step of proving that your analogy is in any way similar to the
original situation.

If the same prostitute got an STD, would you blame the person who she
got it from for not wearing a condom, or would you call it an
occupational hazard?

Jennathasania:
> Above somewhere it was mentioned that Muggle baiting could
> be defined deriving a positive feeling from using magic on a Muggle > to harm or frighten them,

I don't think anyone said that. If they did, I think whoever it was
was mistaken. A shrinking key neither harms nor frightens, though it
may confuse.

Jennathasania:
> later it was argued that this *wasn't* Muggle baiting, and
> neither was what the DE's did at the Quiddich world cup:

Just to be clear (I made it clear in the post you're quoting, but you
snipped that part), saying "this wasn't muggle-baiting" is NOT saying
that it's not bad enough to be muggle-baiting - it's saying that it's
a different type of crime.

>> Random832:
>> I'm suggesting that "muggle-baiting" is a specific term, and that
>> neither what the twins did nor what DEs do is "muggle-baiting", <snip>
>
> Jennathasania:
> which makes me curious as to what level of harm would constitute 
> Muggle baiting.

It's not a specific level of harm. It's a specific type of action. How
much do you have to steal for it to constitute running a red light?
Or, for that matter, to constitute muggle-baiting?

Random832