[HPforGrownups] Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture/Sorting Hat

[P J]

No: HPFGUIDX 155435



Magpie:
Yes, but there's a difference between being fascinated at the way people
live differently and seeing them as children (with you as the adult) because
you come from a different society.  Especially when you're continually
taking children from those people and claiming them for your own.
Basically, the books aren't interested in the interplay between the two
worlds.  Despite the fact that some Muggles are Wizards and some Wizards are
Muggles, and some Wizarding stuff seems modified from the Muggle, the Muggle
world isn't taken seriously anywhere.

PJ:
And see, this is exactly where I feel this arguement falls flat....  We're 
told outright that Purebred Wizards are dying out which means that the 
Muggleborn and mixed wizards are the *majority*.  So what you seem to be 
saying is that they're all predjudiced against themselves?  Against the 
world they know, the families who raised them and their old friends?   I 
don't see it that way at all.

I will grant you that the leaders of the WW all seem to be Purebred Wizards  
but that will slowly change over time.   The old timers will die out or 
retire, and their children or grandchildren will mix with muggleborns as 
well.  It's inevitable.

Magpie:
They defend themselves to their father by claiming it's not Muggle-baiting
because they didn't do it because he's a Muggle and their father is still
just as angry, as if this doesn't actually make it a totally different
thing.  He seems to be trying to teach them something.  If the twins can't
be expected to know the results of the kinds of Pranks they play all the
time, much less care once the results are explained to them by their angry
father, their opinion is probably the less informed one.

PJ:
It's a parent's job to teach their children and even though this isn't a 
case of muggle baiting (as per Canon) it is Arthur's job as their father to 
explain what they did wrong.  To me it's a matter of "No, you didn't mean to 
hurt the child next door but be more careful in the future because next time 
you might do some serious harm."

I guess this is a case where we'll simply have to agree to disagree.

PJ