Traitors and Deserters (was:Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture)

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> >>Betsy Hp:
> > Funnily enough, when Harry does need the twins help they *do* 
> > flee.  While their exit in OotP was thrilling and it saved them 
> > both from a flogging, it also meant that they left Harry and co. 
> > to deal with a mess they had a massive hand in stirring up.  It 
> > also meant that when Harry really needed help they weren't      
> > around to provide it.

> >>Steven1965aaa:
> I don't think their leaving had anything to do with Harry.  They   
> did help him at great personal risk just before that, to get into 
> Umbridge's office to use the fireplace.  It's just hypothetical of 
> course but IMO if Harry had had some specific need for them to    
> stay in order to help him further they would have done so.  They   
> did not know about the scars on his hand.

Betsy Hp:
Oh, I don't really hold it against the twins that they chose to 
leave the school (and the DA) instead of stay and get flogged by 
Umbridge.  As far as they know they're just stirring up a bit of 
trouble to make things a bit difficult for the new headmistress.  
They're not fighting in an all out war.  As you point out, they 
didn't know what all Umbridge was doing to Harry.  They didn't know 
how far she was willing to take things.

Which is interesting, IMO.  Because those who feel Marietta deserved 
her brand tend to say that the DA *was* in a war; that Marietta was 
more than just a snitch, she was a traitor.  But wouldn't that make 
the twins deserters?  Because if everyone in the DA was supposed to 
realize that this was an all out war it means the twins chose to 
leave their post when things got a bit hot.
  
So either, they twins didn't really see the DA as something other 
than a study group (and again, that says something about Marietta's 
role as a snitch), or they did see the DA as an army but weren't 
willing to give it their all.  So shouldn't they be wearing a brand 
across their face ("coward"?) as per Hermione's rules? <eg>

Betsy Hp