What really happened on the tower.

[career advisor]

No: HPFGUIDX 155610

                       Posted by:      "justcarol67"             justcarol67 at yahoo.com                                          justcarol67                                 Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:39 am        (PST)           <Julie wrote:
 > 
 > > The text also makes it unclear if Harry or someone else shouted
 > > "Petrificus Totalis!" when Fenrir was at Harry's throat.
 > 
 Eggplant responded:
 > It sure wasn't unclear to me! Of course Harry did it, or do you
 think some mystery man did it and Harry was so incurious he never
 wondered who had saved his life?
 
<Carol notes:
 <You may be thinking of the first Petrificus Totalus, which Harry casts
 <from behind at the "brutal-faced Death Eater" (Yaxley?). But the
 <second Petrificus Totalus, the one that saves Harry from Fenrir
 <Greyback, is cast by an unidentified person who can't be Harry because
 <Harry is pinned down and can't move:
 
 <"As Harry plunged after them, one of the fighters detached themselves
 <from the fray and flew at him. It was the werewolf, Fenrir. He was on
<top of Harry before Harry could raise his wand: Harry fell backward,
 <with filthy matted hair in his face, the stench of sweat and blood
 <filling his nose and, hot greedy breath at his throat--
 
 <"'Petrificus Totalus!'
 
 <"Harry felt Fenrir collapse against him; with a stupendous effort he
<pushed the werewolf off and onto the floor. . . ." (HBP Am. ed. 598).
 
<Clearly, Harry was saved from a horrible death by whoever cast the
<Petrificus Totalus. But Harry is obsessed with catching Snape, and
 <nothing else matters to him at that moment. So, yes, he's incurious
 <about the mystery man or woman who saved his life, and no, it's not at
 <all clear that Harry saved himself. It appears quite otherwise to me.
 
<Carol, betting five galleons that the mystery man is Snape but not
 arguing that point in this post

I always thought both Petrificus Totalus (let's call them PT's) , were cast wordlessly. In Harry's head, as he learned to do in he book. A PT is a rather simple spell. Hermione uses it in PP/SP on Neville, so prob not a lot of wand movement is required which explains Harry's ability to PT Fenrir. It is also prob an easy spell to cast wordlessly. Also the description of Greybacksattack says nothing about Harry's wand arm being pinned; just that he was suprised and Greyback almost bit him. . 

 This reinforces Snapes argument latter that Harry can never defeat him until he can learn to "....keep his mouth shut and his mind closed." (HBP-- Scholastic pg. 603) Because when Harry kept his mouth shut he defeated two wizards. If  Fenrir is a wizard?

DA Jones    
 
 		
---------------------------------
Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]