Accidental Harrycrux : another question / Lily
justcarol67
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Wed Jul 19 19:57:54 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 155646
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, puduhepa98 at ... wrote:
>
> >Carol, still betting that Harry isn't a Horcrux and that he will
> defeat Voldemort by possessing him
>
> Nikkalmati:
> I am sure you have expounded on this idea before, but I don't recall
exactly
> how this works. Do you mean that Harry, having discovered he has
the power
> of possession, decides to possess LV in the final confrontation - LV
is
> unable to tolerate the contact with love (just as in the MOM) and
voluntarily
> exits his body. He thinks he will not die because of his Horcruxes,
but SURPRISE
> they all have been destroyed and his soul must leave the earth
forever. Is
> that it?
> Nikkalmati (I could see this happening. A bit of a shock for old LV)
:>)
Carol responds:
Yes, exactly. Harry uses Voldemort's own power of possession against
him and defeats him through the intolerable power of Love, which is
now in Voldemort's blood as well as his own. I don't know exactly how
it will work, but possibly Harry will force Voldemort to go through
the Veil or Voldemort will choose to do so to rid himself of the
unbearable pain. In this scenario Voldemort, like Sirius before him,
would be dead, forced to stay behind the Veil (since all his soul bits
will already be there--no more Horcruxes to keep him on earth), but
Harry will have left his body behind and will be allowed to return
using Sirius Black's body. Sirius can finally have the funeral he's
been denied and recognition as a hero. Harry can have what passes for
a normal life, having finally defeated Voldemort. I think Snape wil
play a role in this last scene, but I don't know what it will be.
At any rate, we know that Harry acquired *powers* from Voldemort at
Godric's Hollow (Dumbledore has said so twice), and Voldemort's most
distinctive power other than Parseltongue (which we know Harry has and
which will no doubt come into play when he fights Nagini) is
possession. Harry *thinks* he can't possess anybody, but I have a
feeling that he's wrong and that the power of possession is the key to
defeating Voldemort, who after all has "marked [Harry] as his equal."
Here's a link to another post/thread where I've discussed it before. A
quick search using the Advanced feature of our improved search engine
will lead to other posts on the subject if you're interested. Steve
(bboy_mn) has some posts on the topic as well.
As I see it, a person's soul is his (or her) life force, distinct from
his powers and personality. For example, when Diary!Tom starts
draining Ginny's soul to bring himself to life, he retains his own
powers and identity, not becoming at all like little Ginny, who is a
source of *life* to him but nothing else. Similarly, when Quirrell
"shares his soul" with Vapor!mort, he's a host to a parasite that
sucks out his life force, but he retains his own personality. It's
hard to say whether Quirrell's powers are his own or Voldemort's since
Voldemort is inside him, but his mind and personality are his own (he
takes credit for trying to kill Harry and for pretending to be
"p-poor, stuttering P-Professor Quirrell). Also, Vapor!mort used up
the *life force* of snakes and other creatures when he possessed them.
Certainly he wasn't giving them his powers or using theirs. The
creatures die just as Quirrell does when he leaves their bodies. If
I'm right that powers are distinct from the soul or life force, no
soul bit is necessary for Harry to acquire Voldemort's powers, and we
don't need to worry about Harry's soul being contaminated or how he'll
destroy the last Horcrux if it's himself.
Carol, who thinks Harry!Horcrux is an unnecessary complication that
would require more explanation than JKR intends to provide
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