muggle baiting vs. muggle torture

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> Leah, putting her oar in;
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>> I like the twins- I think they thought their motives were good- 
it a 
> bit like Hermione and the sneak jinx. She may have wanted to 
protect 
> the DA 
> but the 'that'll teach 'em element' got in the way.  I also know 
> that the twins aren't Voldemort or Malfoy or Greyback, I know who 
I 
> would want on my side.  But this isn't a story where everyone is 
> either very very good or horrid.  Most, if not all of the horrid 
> characters once had the choice and potential to be otherwise. 
> Likewise the good characters have within them the potential for 
hate 
> and destruction.  Giving people a let because they're basically ok 
> chaps is not ultimately helping them fulfill their potential- 
Arthur 
> said what needed to be said.  


Alla:

Actually, I don't have much to disagree with you.

As long as we agree that Twins motives were good, I sure understand 
the argument of criticising their action.

It is the dismissal of their motives that makes me confused. Do we 
know that Twins are liars too? If they state their intent 
that "Dudley is a great bullying git", what **is** the canon support 
for dismissing their intent? ( not replying to you, just in general 
to the thread).

I think it is all the question of degree. I understand the criticism 
of playing prank, I really do, but what I don't understand is 
turning Twins playing prank on the boy who tormented the kid whom 
they treat like a brother in the "DE like action".


I am glad we agree, I also know whom I would want at my side in the 
battle. That sure would **not** be Draco Malfoy. IMO of course.


Same with Hermione. As long as we are agreeing of 
Hermione being concerned first and foremost with protecting DA, I 
have no problem agreeing that her actions were not perfectly 
**executed**, but Hermione concerned first and foremost with 
revenge, when she did not even know that betrayal will occur?

I am sorry I just don't see it **at all**.

So, yeah, nice post. :)

JMO,

Alla