Does the Foe Glass Prove Snape = DD's Man?
justcarol67
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Thu Jul 20 21:42:33 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 155724
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "gelite67" <gelite67 at ...> wrote:
>
> I just had a thought about Snape and the Foe Glass in GOF...
>
> I'm assuming the Foe Glass showed Barty Crouch's (the son's) foes and
> not the Real Mad Eye Moody because I can't imagine RealMoody's foes
> would ever include Dumbledore.
>
> Based on that assumption, does the fact that the Foe Glass showed Snape
> as a Foe of one of Voldemort's faithful and true Death Eaters at least
> provide support for the proposition that Snape is DD's man?
>
> If Snape was a true follower of Voldemort, why would the Foe Glass show
> him as a foe of a Death Eater?
>
> (In a way, it seems the Foe Glass is the obverse of the Mirror of
> Erised -- it shows what we desperately do NOT desire -- our foes
> closing in on us.)
>
> Angie
>
Carol responds:
I'm going back to the original post here after having read all the
responses.
First, clearly the Foe Glass shows Barty Jr.'s enemies (real or
perceived) rather than the real Mad-Eye Moody's or McGonagall and
dumbledore wouldn't show up in it. Second, I don't think anyone doubts
that those two are *real* enemies of Crouch!Moody, and Snape's
presence with them suggests that he is a real enemy as well.
(Certainly, his absence from the Foe Glass would have suggested that
he was ESE.) Interestingly, his reflection in the Foe-Glass is wearing
the same expression as McGonagall's and Dumbledore's: "Dumbledore . .
. pulled [the real Moody] into a sitting positon against the wall
beneath the Foe-Glass, in which the reflections of Dumbledore, Snape,
and McGonagall were still glaring down upon them all" (683). harry
also sees the three of them standing together in the Foe-Glass before
they enter the room, after Dumbledore has fired the Stunning spell
through the door (679). Snape's reflection is mentioned once without
reference to the others (679), surely an indication of its significance.
At the time that the three professors enter the room, Snape almost
certainly knows that "Moody" is an imposter, almost certainly a DE, or
he would not have run with Dumbledore and McGonagall to "Moody's"
office. (If he thought it was the real Moody, why would they need to
run there together?) He's surprised by the identity of the imposter,
whom he believed to be dead ("'Crouch!' Snape said, stopping dead in
the doorway. 'Barty Crouch!'" GoF Am. ed. 683), but shows no other
reaction to the events, including Dumbledore's blasting through the
door and Stunning "Moody." He unquestioningly and quickly follows
Dumbledore's orders and listens without apparent reaction to Barty
Jr.'s whole story. If he were not Barty Jr.'s enemy, he would surely
have found some way out of obeying DD's orders before or after this
revelation. He's sent from the scene twice and could have taken those
opportunities to rejoin Voldemort permanently since he knew LV was
back (or he could have run off like the coward Karkaroff when he first
felt the Dark Mark burn). Instead, he returns to LV later, after Fudge
has gone, clearly as part of a prearrangement with Dumbledore for just
this contingency ("If you are ready, if you are prepared").
In my view, the Foe Glass's revelation that Snape is the enemy of a
loyal Death Eater and therefore of Voldemort (which Harry sees but
doesn't interpret as significant given his mental and physical anguish
at that moment) is corroborated by Snape's revelation of his Dark Mark
to Fudge, in front of HRH, McGonagall, Bill and Molly Weasley, and
Madam Pomfrey, as incontrovertible evidence that Voldemort is back and
returning to power. That incredible act of courage can't be explained
(IMO) by anything other than loyalty to Dumbledore and opposition to
Voldemort. Snape could have stood back and let Dumbledore do the
talking. Instead, he took a great personal risk, revealing his DE past
to McGonagall and others to stand by Dumbledore and prove him right.
(That courageous action may have backfired, undermining McGonagall's
trust in him, but it was a risk he must have felt compelled to take.)
At this point, Barty Jr. is already soul-sucked, and Snape's action
can't be accounted for in relation to Barty's hatred for Death Eaters
who walked free. It doesn't relate to Barty at all but to Voldemort.
snape is supporting Dumbledore's contention that Voldemort has
returned, trying to remove Fudge's self-imposed blinders. The question
is where Snape's loyalties lie, and the Foe Glass and the revelation
of the Dark Mark together seem to me to indicate clearly that they lie
with Dumbledore.
Unfortunately for relations between Harry and Snape in the next two
books, Harry doesn't arrive at the same conclusions. Or so it seems to me.
Carol, who thinks that the Foe Glass knows an enemy when it sees one
and that Snape is LV's enemy as well as Barty Jr.'s
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