Harry's fate/ Question to Neri...

[zanooda2]

No: HPFGUIDX 155739

> Alla wrote:

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> I am still not sure that Harry **is** a Horcrux, since "untarnished 
> and whole" soul bugs me still.


zanooda:

There was a great post, by Mike, if I remember right, where he
compared LV's bit of soul with a benign tumor. This was very
convincing, IMO. I also think LV's piece of soul is not "attached" to
Harry's soul, as you say in "Question to Neri...". The LV's piece
still has connection to its "mother-soul", and Harry can feel it
(headaches, visions, Parseltongue etc), but it doesn't mean this piece
became part of Harry's soul.

Like you, I have some trouble accepting Harry-as-an accidental Horcrux
idea. It is one of my favorite theories, and I think it will explain a
lot of things if Harry turns out to be an accidental Horcrux, but I
cannot figure out HOW Harry could become one. 

I mean, the only way it could have happened is if LV cast the
Horcrux-creating spell before he attempted to AK Harry. But if the
spell must be cast before the killing, how, for example, the ring
Horcrux was created? I always assumed that LV made this particular
Horcrux with his father's murder, but he couldn't have created it that
same night. He did it much later, and it means that the spell was cast
long time after the murder. 

Maybe I'm wrong and LV used some other murder for the ring Horcrux?
But how many "significant deaths" are there? Anyway, all this is a big
"if" to me, but I still want to write about it, because I'm really
taken with the idea.

> Alla:

> Do you think Dumbledore is lying here? Do you think he does not 
> know?  (about Harry being a Horcrux)


zanooda:

I think that DD knows, but for how long has he known? This is a very
interesting question to me, because if he knew or suspected from the
very beginning, he probably feared at first that LV's soul bit will
turn Harry into another Tom Riddle Jr. 

Imagine DD watching Harry from afar, looking for any sign of hanged
(or is it hung?) pet rabbits or scared out of their wits Muggle kids,
but seeing nothing of the kind. Imagine him waiting for Harry to be
Sorted, wondering which House it will be. Imagine his relief when he
found out what The Mirror of Erised showed to Harry (only his family
and nothing more). It's quite fascinating, actually.


> Neri wrote:

> in that very paragraph were Dumbledore talks about the Harry's
> "untarnished and whole" soul he says it was in spite of"
> "temptations", "suffering" and "lure of power like Voldemort's". How
> exactly was Harry lured by powers like Voldemort's?


zanooda:

I also think that DD refers here to LV's soul piece residing in Harry. 
Otherwise it's not very clear why Harry should be lured by the Dark
powers, and what is meant by "temptations". LV offered Harry to join
him only once, in PS/SS, and it didn't sound very serious, coming from
the back of Quirrell's head. After that LV and DEs didn't send any
invitations, they only tried to kill the boy at every opportunity. 

IMO, DD means that Harry is supposed (logically) to be influenced by
LV's bit of soul, but he isn't. He is so pure of heart that the evil
thing inside him cannot touch him.