Hate crimes (was Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture)

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No: HPFGUIDX 155809

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sistermagpie" <belviso at ...> wrote:

> Magpie:
> Interesting comparison, given it seems it contains all the things 
> that keep getting added to the Twins scene when they're not there.  
> Harry is provoked, and up until the moment his Magic bursts from him 
> is the person with the least power in the scene.  He tries to ignore 
> the provocation.  He's in a state of emotional distress and doesn't 
> even consciously hex her iirc.  So less power imbalance, more self-
> defense and less intent to perform magic, much less perform it on a 
> Muggle.
> 
Gerry
"She deserved it," said Harry breathing fast 'She deserved what she got." 

Harry refuses to put it right. He can but he does not. He is certainly
taking advantage of his status as a wizard now. 

 
> Magpie:
> Rubbish.  I have not said anything about the Twins not being allowed 
> to dislike Dudley--that's a strawman.  I said they are taking 
> advantage of their status as Wizards over his as a Muggle.  Since 
> Harry and Draco are both wizards it obviously erases the very power 
> imbalance being described.  
> 
Gerry
Just as Harry over aunt Marge. 

>


> Magpie:
> And I continue to disagree with you and do not see myself as being 
> unfair to Fred and George because of it.  Wizards have super powers 
> that Muggles do not have.  That is the *definition* of what they 
> are.  Taking advantage of those super powers is an abuse of power 
> against a Muggle in a way it is not against a Wizard.  The way I 
> would frame it using your analogy about racism would be to say that 
> okay, a white person does not hate all black people.  But he hates a 
> particular one because the guy is a bully.  Does that mean that if 
> he chooses to expess his hatred of that black person by using that 
> inequality against him, it's not racist? Because by using Magic they 
> are using the dividing line between Wizard and Muggle to their 
> advantage--in order to test their joke product for Wizards.
> 
Gerry
Harry used his superior powers on Aunt Marge. Aunt Marge in the past
has used her superior powers over Harry (setting the dog on her and
even now she has superior physical powers). Is the situation really
that oneven? 

Gerry