Structure of the Seven books (Long)
zgirnius
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Sun Jul 23 15:35:52 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 155864
ivogun:
> Rowling has made it known that she has an overall plan for all
seven books. Much of the
> planning involves keeping the events of the plot straight, but I
think to some degree she
> may be utilizing a classical design where the first book mirrors
the last, the second book
> mirrors the next to last, the third book mirrors the third from the
last, and the forth is a
> pivotal book or climax.
zgirnius: This is a n interesting idea.
ivogun:
> I see a lot mirror images or parallels between book two (COS) and
book six (HBP).
zgirnius:
Yes, definitely, I'm snipping 'em all...
ivogun:
> I also see a few parallels between book three (PoA) parallels with
book five (OotP).
zgirnius:
Arguably, I see more parallels between Books 1 and 5.
ivogun:
> In OotP, Harry loses
> Sirius and learns of the Order of the Phoenix (another secretive
group. In PoA, Sirius
> escapes prison. In OotP, Hogwarts becomes a prison.
Zgirnius: Can't match PS/SS to those
ivogun:
In PoA, Lupin is the best DOA
> teacher that Harry ever had. In OotP, Umbridge is the worst DOA
teacher that Harry has
> ever had.
zgirnius:
Of course, in PS/SS Harry's teacher is possessed by Voldemort, ans
totally ineffective, which is pretty bad...
ivogun:
In PoA, the hippogriff bites Draco. In OotP, it is the same
hippogriff that is hurt.
> And of course, dementers attack Harry in both PoA and OotP, and
Harry's Patronus are
> important in both books too.
Zgirnius:
Can't match those either.
ivogun:
> Both PoA and OotP portray treacherous and loyal individuals. In
POA, we find that Sirius
> (falsely accused of betraying the Potters) and Pettigrew (an
opportunistic snitch--a rat). In
> OotP, Umbridge should have been accused of traitor (but wasn't) and
Marietta who was
> pressured into a betrayal.
zgirnius:
In PS/SS we have "The Man with Two Faces" and Snape as our
treacherous and loyal individuals.
ivogun:
> In PoA, Neville gains a bit of confidence with Snape in the Bogart
class. In OotP, Neville
> faces Bella (who tortured his parents into madness) with a
surprising amount of
> confidence.
zgirnius:
In PS/SS Neville wins the House Cup for Gryffindor, for his
courageous attempt to stand up to his friends.
And now, onto my additional Book 1/Book 5 parallels:
-In both, Voldemort is after a magical object which only Harry may
remove from its protections. (The whole main story of the books is
the same!)
-In both, Harry is kept in the dark about the object by Dumbledore
and the other adults.
-In both, Harry (unwisely) does so, though based on the information
Harry has his decision is reasonable.
-In both, Voldemort is nonetheless defeated and fails to attain his
end. Dumbledore comes to the rescue in both.
-In both, Harry (incorrectly?? Jury is out to some extent for OotP,
though I know what I think) believes Snape is in league with the bad
guy.
-In both, Harry falls into disfavor. (PS/SS over the loss of points
rescuing Norbert, in OotP owing to the Daily Prophet's smear campaign
painting him as delusional or a liar.)
-In both, Harry learns more about his parents, and sees them. (PS/SS-
that they were wizards, were killed by Voldemort, and about his
mother's sacrifice, and sees them in the Mirror. In OotP, sees James
and Lily in Snape's Pensieve memory).
-On both Harry learns important pieces of Snape's backstory: the
prank and his rivalry with James in PS/SS, more on that rivalry and
(though Snape is not named until book 6) Snape's overhearing of the
Prophecy.
Ivogun:
> Of course, since book seven is not yet written so the parallels
between the two books are
> unknown, but I think the assumptions that parallels exist between
the two books gives rise
> for interesting speculation.
Zgirnius:
Care to speculate?
I'll go for it. Assuming Book 3 is the correct model and not 5, I
will make the following predictions:
-Dementors will play a role in the events leading up to the ultimate
climax of the series.
-Harry will have to deal in Book 7 with a fugitive murderer/traitor,
who may not be what he seems (<bg>).
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