Whose side are we on??/Story analysis

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No: HPFGUIDX 156130

> > Alla:
> > 
> > Absolutely, OR one should be able to say "I have no sympathy for 
> > Dudley and that is why the question whether Twins are responsible 
> > with their power or not in **this** particular instance bears no 
> > significance to me whatsoever"
> 
> Magpie:
> Right--it's good to be able to separate our personal reactions to 
> things from describing them accurately.  Whether the Twins' actions 
> in this scene is significant in a certain way for the story is also 
> different than whether a particular reader has to find it 
> significant for themselves.  Some people do automatically and some 
> people don't.

Alla:

Yes, sure this is again just different levels of analysing the story. 
For myself I call it analysing on "feelings"" level 
and "intellectual" level. This is strictly how I classify it. I found 
long time ago that for myself to be able to argue effectively turning 
off my emotions completely never works. :)

I certainly have to care about what I am arguing or for the character 
I am defending, but of course turning off the intellectual part is 
also not good, so for me mix works the best, when I am analysing 
developed characters.

I remember some time ago I tried to turn my emotions off completely 
and try to defend Pettigrew. Oh, boy, I think that was a pretty 
pathetic defense, when I think about it. Now I think I would probably 
have done much better by acknowledging how much I hate him and tried 
to find some emotional justifications for him

Some people argue by completely turning off their emotions and that 
works for them. Not me.

Sometimes though I don't feel a need to go any further than trusting 
my emotions and the Toffee incident is probably one of them.


 
> > Alla:
> > 
> > I guess this is again the question of degree for me and that 
> depends 
> > again on how big JKR considers good guys trasngressions are.
> 
> Magpie:
> Oh, I doubt it will be a huge thing either.  I don't think the 
> realization about himself would be Harry realizing he'd been a 
> completely horrible person--he hasn't been.  To go back to Jane 
> Austen, Lizzie was upset for herself for making a mistake, not 
> realizing she was so horrible.  

Alla:

Heee, yes, sure as long as we agree that Harry will not be having a 
major crisis of faith in book 7. Mistakes are possible. And of course 
not saying that Harry's development as a person should stop at 
seventeen ( if he survives of course, please JKR), just saying that 
for the purposes of the books, Harry IMO already learned all major 
life lessons, the one remains is forgiving Snape IMO ( and I do think 
that Harry will forgive Snape no matter what kind of Snape we will 
get :)) If only we could have a bit of Snape's suffering before Harry 
forgives him, I will be completely happy camper.

Magpie:
Draco's realization, if he's to make 
> one, would involve a much more fundamental shift.  I don't know 
what 
> JKR will do with him but she's certainly brought him to the edge of 
> a personal earthquake if she wants him to have one.

Alla:

Well, IMO as it should be, because Draco started his road from much 
different point than Harry.

Although who knows, maybe we will learn that Draco is dead at the 
beginning of book 7 and that's it, one never knows.

JMO,

Alla