Eileen Pince

potioncat willsonkmom at msn.com
Mon Jul 31 02:57:53 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 156212


>
> > aussie:
> > Could that be a reason Snape and Neville have problems? McGonagall
> > knew Neville's gran failed Charms, so was probably in Hogwarts 
around
> > Tom Riddle's time too. Was Neville's gran Eileen's bully? It 
would add
> >  greater insult to Snape hearing of Neville's boggart wearing 
gran's
> > dress.

Potioncat:
Well, if my timeline is correct, Eileen was born in 1931 or 32. The 
Lexicon places McGonagall at 1925 and Riddle at 1926 or 27..

So I  think that would mean McGonagall and Eileen would only have one 
year at Hogwarts. Eileen and Riddle would have one or two. 

It sounds like McGonagall and Mrs. Longbottom may have been 
classmates. If that's the case, Mrs. Longbottom would only share one 
year with Eileen.

I'll go so far as to say, that there might be a connection between 
Mrs. Longbottom and Snape. That's as far as I'm willing to go.
> 
Abergoat:
 Very interesting! Snape
> has already proven that he is ready to assume the child has the same
> faults as the parents (or in this case grandparent). 

snip
Snape sees himself as having made the CHOICE
> to prove those expectations wrong...and I think Snape sees Neville 
as
> having given into low expectations in stead of fighting them.
> 

Potioncat:
Welcome to the list, Abergoat. You've made some intersting 
speculations here. (You too, Aussie.)

I suspect any opinion about Neville would be connected to Alice and 
Frank, rather than to Gran.

As to Snape expecting Harry to be just like James. Well, both 
Dumbledore and Snape say that Harry is extraordinarily like James. 
I've forgotten if Lupin and Black say it as well. So we can hardly 
expect Snape not to expect Harry to be like his father. We also have 
Slughorn expecting Harry to be like Lily. Wow, lots of expecting 
going on.

Happy birthday Neville and Harry---just because it's close enough to 
both.










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