Snape and the "Chosen One" Was: Nice vs. Good - Compassion

[leslie41]

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> > Leslie41: 
> > You give Remus an awful lot of slack, and I don't begrudge you 
> > that.  I give him slack too.  But you use Remus' slack to make a 
> > noose for Snape, and that, Lupinlore, don't make no sense at 
> > all.  

> Lupinlore
> But Lupin is not an abuser of children.  

Leslie41:

Lots of criminals and dangerously reckless people don't abuse 
children.  That doesn't make what they do right.  Your argument, as 
usual, is fallacious.

Also:

Point 1:  Snape is "an abuser of children" according to *you*.  
That's not agreed upon by all. You keep stating it as if it's an 
agreed upon fact and it most certainly not.  You are actually in a 
minority. Stating something over and over again doesn't make it true.

Point 2:  EVERYONE agrees that Lupin endangered the entire 
population of Hogwarts, and Harry, by galumphing about each month as 
a werewolf, and not telling DD about Black being a registered 
animagus.  Even Lupin himself.  That *is* fact.  
 
> Lupinlore:
> A man who makes many mistakes, yes.  A man who has paid for them, 
> yes.  But a man who with cruelty and sadism abuses children while 
> an "epitome of goodness" stands by and lets it happen?  No.

Leslie41:

I saw one of those cop shows the other day, in which someone coked 
up out of his mind tried to elude police by going 100 mph the wrong 
way down an interstate.  No one died, but that guy got 10 years in 
prison.

Seems to me like Lupin did that over and over again, didn't he?  But 
hey, that's okay...it's okay because he wasn't "sadistic".  

Naw, that's not sadistic, but it doesn't matter to the mother who 
potentially could have had to bury a child, or nurse them through 
terrible transformations each month.

Lupin did it because he was a selfish bastard who cared more about 
having fun than for the public safety.  This is something Lupin 
himself *admits*.     

But thanks for providing a stellar example of the "Lupinlore 
Slack".  I'll refer back to it later if I need to.

> Lupinlore:
> Yes, it most certainly is.  Snape is an abuser of children, IMO, 
> over and out.  And if JKR does not deal with that, then she will 
> have failed in a reprehensible manner that leaves her books good 
> for nothing but mulch.

Leslie41:
I predict a nicely mulched garden in your future, and an extremely 
disappointed and horrified Lupinlore.