[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry a Horcrux?

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 153358

Neri wrote:

> Neri:
> I agree with KJ and, in a sense, with Jazmyn too. This is semantics.
> My own thoughts too are that Harry indeed got a Voldemort's soul part
> in GH, but that he is *not* a Horcrux, or at least he will not
> function as a Horcrux at the critical moment in Book 7.

   KJ writes:
     My theory is that the soul part in Harry *will* function as a 
horcrux, and that this is the "power that Voldemort knows not". Only 
Harry will recognize that Voldemort is not yet vanquished and will be 
able to take the steps necessary to destroy the final piece of soul. To 
me, this is what the prophesy means by "neither can live while the other 
survives".

Neri:
> A. As Dumbledore theorized, Voldemort indeed had meant to make a
> living Horcrux with the murder of the prophesied baby.

KJ:
    I don't think that Voldemort ever intended to make a "living 
horcrux". I do believe DD when he stated that he thought Voldemort did 
intend to make his final horcrux using the soul split that would have 
occurred when he murdered Harry. As this failed, there should only be 
six horcruxes in total. Harry's was the significant death, as a result 
of the prophesy for the final horcrux. I have a hard time believing that 
Voldemort is dumb enough to make Nagini a horcrux. I think that this was 
a plot device to let us know that a living horcrux was a possibility.

   Neri:
> E. Voldemort now tries to kill Harry but the AK rebounds on him. His
> two soul parts are released. The only body still alive in the house is
> Harry, so one of the soul parts enters him and the spell is finally
> sealed.

KJ:
   This is interesting, as we know that the main soul of Voldemort 
drifted away to end up in Albania. We suspect that one piece ended up in 
Harry.  One wonders what happened to the other piece. In fact, Voldemort 
was such a busy murderer, that I wonder how many other pieces there 
were. If there was no actual encasing spell applied to these other 
pieces, were they also destroyed, did they reunite with the main piece?

   Neri:
> 2. Why Voldemort himself was not aware that such a connection was formed.

    KJ:
     To me, this proves that no spell was performed prior to the murders 
at GH, or he would have some idea of what might have occurred. This is 
also demonstrated by Voldemort's lack of knowledge of the destruction of 
any of his horcruxes. He can't feel them. I wonder if he is becoming 
suspicious about what happened and if that is why his DEs have 
instructions to leave Harry for him to deal with.

   Neri:
> 3. Why Voldemort seems to be unsure about what exactly happened at GH
> (he says in the graveyard: "it appeared that one or more of my
> experiments had worked... for I had not been killed")

   KJ:
      Unfortunately, horcruxes are one of those things that are only 
demonstrated to work when actually field tested.:)

> Neri:
> Note also that this scenario does not preclude that Nagini is a
> Horcrux too. Perhaps Voldemort believed that his soul part from GH was
> lost forever, so he made her a Horcrux later, as Dumbledore theorized.
> This gives a new meaning to Harry's experience the night Nagini
> attacked Arthur in the Ministry. It also suggests the interesting
> future possibility that Harry can seize control over Nagini.

   KJ:
     I tend to think that, if it becomes necessary, Harry could control 
Nagini as a direct result of being able to speak parseltongue, and 
because he has a piece of Voldie's soul. In this case, I believe DD's 
explanation that Harry could only see through Nagini because Voldemort 
had possessed the snake. I suspect that it might not be necessary due to 
a certain potions expert now living in close proximity to poor Nagini. 
Horcrux or not, I think Nagini is toast.

KJ