CHAPDISC: HBP 18, Birthday Surprises
Ceridwen
ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 7 18:31:09 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 153510
Debbie:
> QUESTIONS
> 1. What do you think of Golpalott's Third Law? Was it included as
an example of magical principles? Do you think it will be applied in
Book 7, either actually or metaphorically? And is there any
significance to the name Golpalott, other than its resemblance to
gulp-a-lot?
Ceridwen:
I think Golpalott's Third Law is intended to show the difficulty of
N.E.W.T.-level Potions. It may or may not appear in book 7, but if
it does, then it will be Hermione who applies it, IMO.
> 2. Harry and Ron appear incapable of anything in Potions class
without Hermione's assistance. They can't even manage to consult
Advanced Potion Making to figure out what to do (although Harry does
look in the margins for advice from the Prince). How did they do so
well on their Potions OWLs? And is this joke getting old now that the
Trio are 16?
Ceridwen:
I hadn't even noticed this aspect of it. Both Harry and Ron got Es
on their Potions owls, maybe this, along with Galpalott's Third Law,
is meant to establish why Snape only accepted O students to his
classes.
> 3. How do you think Lily acquired her reputation as having
an "intuitive grasp of potion-making"?
Ceridwen:
Maybe she was good at Potions. My mother is still a whiz at math,
even though I barely passed last semester with a D and was glad for
it. Just because a parent is good at something doesn't mean the
child will be.
Also, I think Slughorn has a soft spot for Lily, for her personality
and her accomplishments in class both. He may be enhancing her
abilities because he liked her so well. He seems that type.
> 4. Why is it so important to Hermione to outshine Harry in
Potions? Is it a need for recognition? Fear of failure? Concern
about Harry's reliance on an unknown author? Annoyance that Harry is
taking credit for the Prince's work? Something else? And why do you
think she put her own hair into her potion?
Ceridwen:
I think it's annoyance that Harry is taking credit for the Prince's
work, coupled with the amount of effort she is expending herself
without the assistance. The point was to use Galpalott's Third Law,
not to use an alternative, which could have been a footnote instead.
The hair was probably a remedy for one of the poisonous ingredients.
> 5. JKR frequently makes a point of describing the weather when she
shifts to a new scene or section of narrative; for example, February
brought "cold dreary wetness." Do you think JKR is using the weather
to set a mood here or is it just transition?
Ceridwen:
The changing weather seems to be an aid to transition. Various times
of the year are characterized by certain types of weather.
> 6. Wilkie Twycross tells the students that the restrictions on
Apparition have been lifted in the Great Hall for the duration of the
lesson. If it's that simple, couldn't anyone undo the restriction?
Why, then, is Draco spending an entire term trying to create an
entrance through the Vanishing Cabinets? Shouldn't the DEs have
tried to undo the restriction long before now?
Ceridwen:
Maybe the restrictions are 'password protected' - only the headmaster
can undo them?
> 7. Is the watch Ron received for his coming of age birthday
significant in any way?
Ceridwen:
I don't know. It seems like a special present, the sort a young man
might receive at a coming-of-age, like a special birthday or a
graduation. Maybe it's just being used to show that Ron is now a
man. Though, it is described in great detail just to be a prop for
that idea.
> 8. JKR uses Ron to portray the effects of Love Potions in a very
humorous way (I thought Ron's deadpan comments about Romilda Vane
were the most laugh-out-loud funny in the entire book). Does this
scene help to envision the effect of Merope's love potion on Tom
Riddle Sr.? How do you think Riddle's family and friends reacted to
lovelorn Tom? Is JKR lampooning the effect of crushes on us Muggles?
Ceridwen:
I think JKR used all of the ships and near-ships in HBP to lampoon
crushes. I do think the love potion in the chocolates echoes the
love potion Dumbledore supposed to have been hidden in a glass of
water. I think TR's family would have reacted in surprise and almost
horror at his sudden infatuation with Merope, if they knew about it,
just like Harry reacts to Ron's sudden declaration of love. Being
Muggles, they wouldn't have known to suspect a love potion, so they
were probably tearing their hair out over it. They were certainly
unable to counter the effects!
I think the funniest part of this scene is the contrast between Ron's
fervent 'love' against Harry's growing alarm. Humor is often used to
show serious ideas. Love potions, while not banned, are not exactly
fluffy-bunny goodness and light. I think the humor was used to
underline the seriousness of depriving someone of their will.
> 9. Why is Ron horrified when Slughorn administers the antidote? Is
he feeling the disappointment of the crush wearing off, or is he just
embarrassed at having acted the way he did? And why does JKR always
select Ron as a victim of forms of magic with sophomorically humorous
effects?
Ceridwen:
I think Ron is embarrassed at having acted the way he did. And, I
think JKR uses Ron in the humorous effects more because his
personality lends itself to OTT characterizations.
> 10. There is so much Slughorn in this chapter it could have been
named for him. Slughorn's actions include (i) invoking Lily, (ii)
reacting badly to Harry's inquiry about horcruxes, (iii) calling
Ron "Ralph", (iv)opening a bottle of mead intended for Dumbledore,
and (v) failing to recognize Ron's symptoms or take responsive
action, even though the bezoar was in his bag. How do these actions
affect our prior perception of his character? Is Slughorn a
sympathetic character despite his faults? What do you think of his
ethics? His potion-making skills?
Ceridwen:
i. Slughorn's invocation of Lily, I think, is meant to get him into
Harry's good graces: he still wants to 'collect' Harry. ii. Slughorn
has already given Dumbledore an altered memory about horcruxes. This
has probably brought the subject back to his mind. Harry asking is
an echo of TR asking, and given Harry's link to TR/LV, I think this
is what set Slughorn to sweating. TR's reason for asking was
revealed to Slughorn when he died withuot dying at GH. Now, here is
Harry, who lived through LV's AK, asking the same thing. iii.
Slughorn isn't trying to collect Ron, he isn't impressed with him, so
he mistakes his name. It's insulting - I had someone merely misspell
my name constantly, even after being corrected. It's a contemptuous
practice, and shows that the misuser doesn't give a hoot about the
recipient, in this case, Ron. iv. Slughorn has accidentally
forgotten to give Dumbledore his present (accidentally on purpose?).
He sees an opportunity to impress Harry, and to have some of the mead
himself. v. Slughorn panicks. He's apparently good at theory and
practice, but doesn't operate well under stress. We saw that with
his reaction to Harry's questioning him about Horcruxes. From all of
this, I think Slughorn is a good Potions maker but no good in an
emergency; he uses favoritism so heavily that he insults the people
he does not favor (Molly's reaction to the way he treated Arthur); he
is agreeable to accidentally keeping something marked for someone
else as his own. He is weak, nice, but weak.
> Bonus Question. Despite the fact that ch. 18 is infused with
potions, former potions master Snape is barely mentioned. If Snape
had still been potions master, how do you think he would he have
handled Ron's predicament?
Ceridwen:
I think Snape would have stuck a bezoar down Ron's throat.
> Debbie with many thanks to Petra Pan and SSSusan for their comments
on the summary (and especially for pointing out all my mistakes)
Ceridwen, who didn't notice any mistakes, but who did see some things
she hadn't considered before. Thanks, Debbie!
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