[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and the "Chosen One" Was: Nice vs. Good - Compassion

[rebecca]

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>PAR said:

>Qui tacet consentit" (silence implies consent) is actually a legal 
>construct

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>Nor is the arguement that "you have these people in real life so
>it's ok to have them in HP" that valid.  In real life, you have
>abandoned kids, broken marrages, infidelity and children dying of
>cancer and other illnesses, none of which is in HP.  We don't
>need "goodness" silent on bad things either.
>PAR

Rebecca:

True, PAR, it's a legal construct in the US and can be interpreted 
differently in any number of given situations.  For example, when you're a 
suspect,  your "silence" does not imply consent if you're being questioned. 
In other countries, it's also not necessarily the same statute as the US, 
either.

The question begets itself if all people had idyllic childhoods, where would 
character and values come from? This isn't discounting cancer, abandoned 
children and your examples, it's only to serve that some people, who 
mistreat us, or misfortunes that befall us actually can make us stronger and 
more resolved in the way we live our lives. Compare Draco Malfoy and Dudley 
Dursley: are either of those two have such strength of character and values 
as Harry or Ron do? Draco and Dudley have been spoiled and pampered most of 
their lives, wouldn't you say - with the benefit of not one, but two parents 
nonetheless.

I disagree that the argument about having "bad" people in real life is not a 
good point to this debate.  In HBP, you do have death, you do have 
mistreatment, and you do have children dying at the hands of creatures or 
losing parents or other relatives to Death Eaters. Lots of murder and 
mayhem, hm? And I'm not so sure about broken marriages - we saw at least one 
person who may have been affected by a trouble marriage in Harry's view of 
Snape's memories while attempting to learn Occulmency in OoP. Seems to me 
the WW as JKR writes it is just as troubled as any other society, even our 
own.

Rebecca