R/Hr ship (was Re: JKR Listening ? )

[ellecain]

No: HPFGUIDX 153713


> Neil said:
> >> Ron/Hermione is a bigger problem.  I think many people are 
simply 
> anti-R/Hr. The two just seem like oil and water to even those of 
us  
> who saw the anvils.  I still keep asking myself why these two 
people 
> would even want to be a couple.  They are both guilty of doing and 
> saying very hurtful things to the other and seem to have nothing, 
> other than Harry, in common.  I wish Rowling would explain why 
they 
> are attracted to each other. <<

Elyse: Yeah, I had problems with the R/Hr myself, but 
my problem wasnt that I was baffled by the attraction, or why they 
would want to be a couple when they fight so much;
it was just the way in which their courtship was portrayed...
(do not lynch me for using the word courtship, please <g>)

I mean, in HBP, all that Ron-Lavender necking was supposed to be an 
attempt by Ron to get back at Hermione for kissing Krum.
That struck me as highly immature, and I cant say I approved of 
Hermione dealing with it the way she did. I felt she was just 
fanning the fire. And as for going out with Cormac to make Ron 
jealous, I was simply rolling my eyes and wondering when HP became 
the sort of teenage soap opera...

*This* is supposed to be a courship ritual? They run around each 
other playing covert manipulative hurtful games? And Rowling wasted 
page time on this? I simply dont understand it. I'm with Neil here 
and I want an explanation from JKR as to why R/HR was done in such a 
melodramatic OC/Dawsons Creek way. They had already confessed 
feelings for each other, Ron, of course made it pretty obvious 
during the last two books, and Hermione's admission that she was 
going to take him to the Christmas party was enough. After they know 
that the feeling is mutual, why all the hurtful games? 

This reminds me of Magpie's essay about the books having covert games
played by the girls in HP to get the guys they want. Except it seems 
that Ron was attempting to manipulate Hermione as well....
the link to her esay is here: 
http://sistermagpie.livejournal.com/100477.html
I thought it was an excellent essay.


> Neil said:
> >> It would be a copout by JKR, but I think her best solution, in 
> what will already be a packed book, is just to forget 
relationships 
> entirely. Everybody says that it isn't an important part of the 
> story.  If that be the case, then just leave everything as it 
ended 
> in HBP.  Just imagine if she did that. People could argue for the 
> next century about it and HP fanfiction would never die. <<
> end snip
> 
> Kellie:
> Relationships and all, is not the main part of the story, but in a 
> way, it is important in its own way.  It may not have anything to 
do 
> with LV. I think though, you need some side stories going on in 
order 
> not to have everything happen to fast.  I can't explain it like I 
> want to, but I think it adds to the story line. *smiles* JMO.
> 
>

Elyse: Actually in this case, I think it detracted from the 
storyline. When I think of how JKR could have shown us some of 
Snape's lessons or a bit more of Harry grieving over Sirius, I think 
the book would have been more forceful. Relationships may be 
interesting in their own way, but I dont see any need to give 
melodramatic tennage romantic exploits more page time than the 
nuances of the plot, and characters' issues.
Sorry for inflicting this on you. In JKR's words...Rant Over!

Elyse