Horcrux: was Baptism/Christianity in HP
Peggy Richter
richter at ridgenet.net
Wed Jun 14 04:05:23 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 153818
PAR: If James and Lily had been concerned about baptism and it's
significance as implied, then Harry would have had a GODMOTHER as
well as a Godfather. He doesn't, according to JKR in the same
interview as the one where she mentions the Christening. I don't
think one can presume that it is a significant issue.
http://www.etymonline.com/
hors d'oeuvre
1714, "out of the ordinary," from Fr. hors d'oeuvre, "outside the
ordinary courses (of a meal)," lit. "apart from the main work," from
hors, var. of fors "outside" (from L. fortis) + de "from" +
oeuvre "work," from L. opera, (see opus). Meaning "extra dish set
out before a meal or between courses" attested in Eng. from 1742.
hors de combat
1757, from Fr., lit. "out of combat."
Crux also means "heart" or "crossroads" (as in railroad crossing)
So Horcrux would mean "out of the heart" or "out of the crossing [of
lives}" both of which fit FAR better to what LV is up to than any
reference to a crucifixion cross.
god
O.E. god "supreme being, deity," from P.Gmc. *guthan (cf. Du. god,
Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ), from PIE *ghut- "that which is
invoked" (cf. Skt. huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root
*gheu(e)- "to call, invoke." But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to-
"poured," from root *gheu- "to pour, pour a libation" (source of
Gk. khein "to pour," khoane "funnel" and khymos "juice;" also in the
phrase khute gaia "poured earth," referring to a burial
mound). "Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred
in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound"
[Watkins]. Not related to good. Originally neut. in Gmc., the gender
shifted to masc. after the coming of Christianity. O.E. god was
probably closer in sense to L. numen. A better word to translate
deus might have been P.Gmc. *ansuz, but this was only used of the
highest deities in the Gmc. religion, and not of foreign gods, and
it was never used of the Christian God. ..... God bless you after
someone sneezes is credited to St. Gregory the Great, but the pagan
Romans (Absit omen) and Greeks had similar customs.
-- so "godric" may refer to "god" but it isn't specific as to WHICH
god.
We have gnomes (see gnome --"dwarf-like earth-dwelling spirit,"
1712, from Fr. gnome, from L. gnomus, used 16c. in a treatise by
Paracelsus, who gave the name pigmaei or gnomi to elemental earth
beings, possibly from Gk. *genomos "earth-dweller."
We also have fairies, giants, dragons, phoenix, centaurs and
mermaids -- but I don't think that the references to them "prove"
that JKR is using the HP stories to link to Mithra or the
but I don't think JKR is using HP as an allegory of non Christian
beliefs.
I'm certain that she is using Christian symbolisms as these are
familiar to many of her readers. The phoenix is actually a pagan
symbol long before it was a Christian one, dating back to Egyptians
and Babylonian period http://eclipsephoenix.homestead.com/
I think JKR's themes are intended to be universal ones that are
found in Hindu, Islam, Judaism, Wiccan and yes, Christian religions
among others. I have yet to see anything in her books that is
unique to Christianity and would be very disappointed if she put
something of that sort in Book 7.
PAR
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