Priori Incantatem

zanooda2 zanooda2 at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 15 22:10:26 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 153915

> Carol wrote:

><snip>

> Voldemort lost his wand immediately after Godric's Hollow and did  
> not  use it again until after he was restored to fetal form by 
>Wormtail

><snip>

> even when Wormtail returned LV's wand to him, he seems to have used
> it  mostly for torture (of Bertha Jorkins) and murder (of Bertha 
>  and Frank  Bryce). He had no shoes to tie (to cite another post in
> this thread),  and he had Wormtail to milk Nagini, feed him her 
> venom, and do whatever other petty chores were necessary 
 
zanooda:

And Wormtail probably didn't use LV's wand for the spells he had to do
while caring for his master. Even if he lost his own during his
escape, by that time he already had Bertha Jorkins' wand.

There is one thing here though that confuses me. Wormtail met Bertha
on his way to find, as you call him here, Vapormort. If LV was still
without even his baby-body at this point, who then tortured and killed
Bertha? 

The only explanation I can think of is that Wormtail Stupefied,
Petrified or Imperiused her (with her own wand?)and then left her "on
ice" until he could restore LV to his baby!Mort form. It seems
complicated, IMO.


> Carol:

> less tangible spells like Obliviate and its unknown countercurse
>(used to undo Bertha Jorkins' memory modification) or, for that
>matter, Imperio (not that LV necessarily performed it during his time
> as Baby!mort) probably would not show up as the result of Priori
>Incantem-

zanooda:

Crouch Jr. said:" My father was placed under the Imperius Curse by my
master"(GoF, ch."Veritaserum"). So it looks like LV performed Imperio,
unless he didn't use his own wand for some reason. This curse doesn't
have any physical manifestation though, and I don't know what Priori
Incantatem would show in this case.




 












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