Unwelcome visitors and drinks in HBP chapters 1-4 (Was: Spinner's End Clues)
Tonks
tonks_op at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 17 03:49:19 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 153969
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ceridwen" <ceridwennight at ...>
wrote:
> Carol:
I think that the time frame of the first four chapters has been
carefully structured and that they all take place on the same night
at roughly or exactly the same time. (
> Ceridwen:
> I've thought for some time that these chapters all occur on the
same night. They're too similar, though I'm not as good as Carol at
> picking out motifs. I even thought at one time (Carol, and I
think it was Geoff, shot me down here) that maybe Slughorn was in
the same town as Snape and that when Snape looked out the window, he
saw Dumbledore and Harry Apparating in up the road a ways. To me,
all three chapters (I'm excluding chapter four here since I wasn't
> looking at it in quite this way) had an air of expectancy to
them. At the time I was thinking this, chapter four, though also
on the same night, was a continuation of chapter three.
>
> But, putting it in the context of unwelcome visitors and drinks
being served, then I do have to include chapter four's unwelcomed
visit by Dumbledore and Harry to Slughorn's temporary home..
(Snip) Maybe it *is* worth looking into it a little further, like
some blended ChapDisc...
>
Tonks:
I have been thinking about all of the drinking. Especially wine. And
HRH were learning to turn vinegar into wine in potions class.
Wonder if this is, among whatever else it may be, a set up for...
well I really don't think it fits to have Harry do that, since he is
Everyman... but you know there is a wedding coming up.... I sure
hope that there are not going to be "unwelcome visitors" there. Bill
and Fluer and their families deserve some peace at least for one day.
Also perhaps we can do a chart of some things. Again I don't have
the time to do it. But if someone charted out the people, time,
place, of the drinking and see if there are any connections. Can
there be any connection to DD's drinking in the cave? Example for
illustration only: Lets say there were 12 people drinking and DD
drank 12 cups in the cave. Were these memories connected with each
person? I don't think so. It would be rather far out
but just to
give an idea .. you know
look at everything from all angles, even
those that don't seem to connect. They might connect if you chart
them out.
I'll bet that there are loads of things in the books that connect
here and there in sly sneaky ways
we know that JKR is like that.
She is like a cat playing with a mouse. She loves to do that to us
and then she sits back and snickers to herself. Why else would she
need a complicated chart to write the books if she doesn't have to
plan to plant something here, something else over there.. and so on.
This will take a team of detectives.
Tonks_op
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