Unwelcome visitors and drinks in HBP chapters 1-4 (Was: Spinner's End Clues)

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 17 03:49:19 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 153969

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ceridwen" <ceridwennight at ...> 
wrote:
> Carol:
 I think that the time frame of the first four chapters has been 
carefully structured and that they all take place on the same night 
at roughly or exactly the same time. (

> Ceridwen:
> I've thought for some time that these chapters all occur on the 
same night.  They're too similar, though I'm not as good as Carol at 
> picking out motifs.  I even thought at one time (Carol, and I 
think it was Geoff, shot me down here) that maybe Slughorn was in 
the same town as Snape and that when Snape looked out the window, he 
saw Dumbledore and Harry Apparating in up the road a ways.  To me, 
all  three chapters (I'm excluding chapter four here since I wasn't 
> looking at it in quite this way) had an air of expectancy to 
them.   At the time I was thinking this, chapter four, though also 
on the  same night, was a continuation of chapter three.
> 
> But, putting it in the context of unwelcome visitors and drinks 
being served, then I do have to include chapter four's unwelcomed 
visit by Dumbledore and Harry to Slughorn's temporary home..
(Snip) Maybe it *is* worth looking into it a little further, like 
some blended ChapDisc...
> 

Tonks:
I have been thinking about all of the drinking. Especially wine. And 
HRH were learning to turn vinegar into wine in potions class.  
Wonder if this is, among whatever else it may be, a set up for... 
well I really don't think it fits to have Harry do that, since he is 
Everyman... but you know there is a wedding coming up....  I sure 
hope that there are not going to be "unwelcome visitors" there. Bill 
and Fluer and their families deserve some peace at least for one day.

Also perhaps we can do a chart of some things. Again I don't have 
the time to do it.  But if someone charted out the people, time, 
place, of the drinking and see if there are any connections.  Can 
there be any connection to DD's drinking in the cave?  Example for 
illustration only:  Lets say there were 12 people drinking and DD 
drank 12 cups in the cave. Were these memories connected with each 
person?  I don't think so. It would be rather far out
 but just to 
give an idea .. you know 
 look at everything from all angles, even 
those that don't seem to connect. They might connect if you chart 
them out.

I'll bet that there are loads of things in the books that connect 
here and there in sly sneaky ways 
  we know that JKR is like that.  
She is like a cat playing with a mouse.  She loves to do that to us 
and then she sits back and snickers to herself.  Why else would she 
need a complicated chart to write the books if she doesn't have to 
plan to plant something here, something else over there.. and so on.

This will take a team of detectives.  

Tonks_op









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