Horcrux musings

[amanitamuscaria1]

No: HPFGUIDX 154056

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "whirledgirl" <blink_883 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> > > amanitamuscaria1 <saraandra@> wrote:
> > > >> I was pondering on Horcruxes, and how they would play
> > > out. So far, we've got:
> > > #1 The ?Slytherin? Locket - R.A.B.?
> > > #2 Riddle's Diary - Harry
> > > #3 The Peverell Ring - Dumbledore/Snape
> > > #4 ?Helga Hufflepuff's Cup?
> > > #5 ?Ravenclaw?
> > > #6 ?Gryffindor?
> > > #7 Voldemort - has to be Harry, but not necessarily Harry
> > > alone. <snip> <<
> >
> > > Wendy:
> > > Could the Horcruxe for Gryffindor be the sword? What
> > > happened to it after Harry returned it Dumbledore?
> >
> > Tonks:
> > <SNIP> Also in that statement, DD said (of the sword) that it was
> > the only "known" relic of Gryffindor's.  <snip> The sorting hat
> > also belonged to Gryffindor.  <snip>
> 
> 
> WG*:
> 
> Well, we've asked ourselves (and each other!) if the sword is a
> horcrux,<<SNIP>> but I haven't seen the
> question; ''where is it from?''
>> Where was it before appearing through the hat? 

AmanitaMuscaria now - very interesting question! I did wonder if one 
of Voldemort's reasons for returning to Hogwarts was to leave a 
horcrux (Helga's cup?) hidden in the Trophy Room - where better, 
where safer than under Dumbledore's protections? But I hadn't 
pondered where the sword had been kept. 

<<SNIPSNIP>>
> Regarding the time and destruction of horcruxes (horcruces? it's a
> made up word anyway!), I somehow doubt that Harry will include all
> those people in his search.

AmanitaMuscaria again - What I was trying to say, not very clearly, 
was that Harry couldn't possibly have time in one book to find and 
disarm the remaining horcruxes (plural of horcrux - Chapter 23), so 
the people I mentioned could deal with several or all of the 
remaining horcruxes, and Harry be left to do the final battle with 
Voldemort, supported by his DA.

> Either there are not as many horcruxes
> as we are led to believe (DD was wrong (as far as is known so far)
> about quite a few things in HBP, maybe this was another
> 'oversight'?), or Harry and Voldie will battle without Harry
> having found all the horcruxes yet - and the book will end on an
> insanely unfinished note, with us never really knowing if he got
> them all or not! Wouldn't ya just hate that! And love it too, in a
> frustrating Ron/Hermione relationship sort of way ;-)
> 
> WG*
>

AmanitaMuscaria again - I think the six-plus-one theory seems to 
resonate through a number of the books, so I'm pretty convinced there 
are six horcruxes, and the soul part left in Voldemort.
 Book 1: six trials to get to Philosopher's Stone (Fluffy, Devil's 
Snare, flying keys, chess game, the troll is already knocked out so 
I'm not counting him, potions puzzle, mirror of Erised), then 
QuirrelMort

Book 4: Tri-Wizard Tourney (3 tasks plus the egg), Ron's and others' 
antagonism, Cedric's death, then Voldemort's rebirth

Book 5: Others' disbelief (esp.Ron & Hermione's); Umbridge's 
detentions and Quidditch ban;  Snape's occlumency; loss of 
Dumbledore, McGonagall & Hagrid; MoM battle; Loss of Sirius, then 
Possession by Voldemort

There are 7 books, but JKR has said  "So much of what happens in book 
six relates to book seven that I feel almost as though they are two 
halves of the same novel." on her website.
In the UK, the last two years of school ( equivalent to Hogwarts 6 & 
7 NEWT years) are known as lower and upper sixth form.
Bill, Charlie, Percy, Fred, George, Ron, ... and Ginny

And a bit more off-the-wall; Harry, Ron, Hermione, Neville, Luna, 
Ginny ... and a.n.other(Snape?) - the core of DAs plus another for 
the final showdown?

Cheers, AmanitaMuscaria