Phoenix fire?

[Tonks]

No: HPFGUIDX 154087

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Kemper said:
I don't think Carol is posing a point so much as she is posing a 
possibility. Red and Gold was referenced early in the series with 
regard to a phoenix. In Diagon Alley at Olivander's, Harry's wand 
chose him:

"He reaised the wand above his head, brought it swishing down through
the dusty air and a stream of red and gold sparks shot from the
end..." (SS/PS chapt. 5)

One has to wonder why JKR chose to reference the fire rope thing in
the Cave as 'red and gold' instead of 'red and orange' or 'orange and
gold'?

It seems deliberate on JKR's part to have the reader refer to the
phoenix for a reason.

houyhnhnm said:
The phoenix, in astrology, is asscociated with Scorpio, the most
Slytherin-like of the water signs. There are three types of Scorpio
personalities: The Scorpion, the Eagle, and the Phoenix.

The Scorpion is the lowest type. Scorpions are totally self-seeking,
using their own talents and others' resources to further their own
ends, at any cost.

The Eagle will use another person's resources for personal gain, but
will do so in such a way as to bring mutual benefits.

The highest and rarest type of Scorpio is the Phoenix (also called 
the Dove). According to Alan Oken, the Phoenix is a "healer and
metaphysician who is constantly at work draining negative energies
from others, repolarizing that energy through his or her own force
field, and infusing into other people their newly regenerated and
healing strength."

Tonks:
I think we need to take these ideas and stir them in a cauldron and 
strain the potion and see what comes out. I sense something in all 
of this, but can't quite put my finger on it.  We have the 
Gryffindor and Slytherin symbolism both present in Fawkes -- is this 
some sort of ying/yang kind of thing? And what does it mean?

What is DD's wand core? Do we know?  If Harry's wand shot out red 
and gold and this is associated with fire as in the cave
  ?  Does 
this mean that DD's wand core is also phoenix?  Does it mean that 
Harry will be able to cast the same fire and have it involve Fawkes 
coming to his aid?  What does the wand core mean when we have the 
brother wand effect?  And why??  (as a side note. It occured to me 
while water my garden and producing an ark of a rainbow.. is there 
some connection with what happened in GOF?)

And in your Slytherin idea associated with Fawkes you mention the 
Eagle.  This is associated with Ravenclaw.  What does this mean??  
How does the Ravenclaw Eagle and the Phoenix combine?  What about 
the Lion of Gryffindor.  And the Badger.  Are they represented in 
astrology any where?  

Firenze keeps telling us that he sees things in the sky.  I suspect 
that he sees a lot more than just "Mars is bright tonight".  Does he 
see anything associated with the Eagle, Lion, Badger and Snake?  
Like a final battle of some sort?  Tell us more.

Tonks_op