How did MWPP make the Maunderer's Map?

Hagrid aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Fri Jun 23 14:19:48 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 154223

> Hagrid Wrote:
> 
>  > The Map has blind spots where it can't see anyone. So how come 
>  > some areas show up and not others?
>  >
>  >The three areas not shown on the map I know of are:-
>  >
>  >- Hagrid's Hut (or Lupin would have seen Pettigrew there - POA)
>  >- Room of Requirements (where Draco disappeared - HBP)
>  >- The Chamber of Secrets has never been mentioned again.
>  >
>  > Do the makers of the map have to have been in those areas of 
>  > Hogwarts to be able to include them on the map?
> 
>  > - If so, Hagrid didn't trust them enough to allow them into his 
hut.
>  > - They never discovered the secrets of the Room of Requirements.
>  > - They couldn't open the Chamber - just as well for all of 
Hogwarts.
>  >
>  > - BUT ... it also means they got into the Slytherin Common 
>  > Rooom to plot that on the map because Harry sees Draco on the 
>  > map when he is back in the Common room(HBP).
>  >
>  > Agree? / Disagree? / what would MWPP be doing there? Was it 
>  > Pettigrew (as a Rat) that crept around plotting some areas? 
>  > Would his map making skill come into book 7? What do u think?
> 
> 
> Allie:
> I don't think they would necessarily have to have been *inside* a
place (e.g. Slytherin Common Room) to map it, but they would have to
know where it was.
> The Shrieking Shack isn't on the Hogwarts grounds.
>
HAGRID / AUSSIE now:

HOGWARTS ITSELF IS UNPLOTTABLE - SO THE BOUNDARY AND OUTSIDE THE 
GROUNDS WOULD NEED TO FIDDLE WITH THAT AGE OLD PROTECTIVE CHARM. I 
THINK THE MAP IS WITHIN THE CAMPUS GROUNDS ONLY.

>
> Tim <evangelist...> wrote:
>
> I don't have a lot to say about this bar a bit of shallow 
> reasoning. And I think you're right to raise them.
> 
> 1. Hagrid's Hut - Isn't it impolite to spy on friends, assuming of 
> course that Hagrid shared the same relationship with the Marauders 
> as he does with Fred and George. I think Hagrid did trust them. 
> Hagrid I feel would have seen/felt the good in them and that to me 
> appears to be the way Hagrid judges people - with his heart, (well 
> it's more accurate than his head at least)

HAGRID / AUSSIE now:
WITHIN OOTP, THEY WERE FRIENDS. BUT McGONAGALL ACCUSES MWPP OF BEING 
THE BIGGEST TROUBLEMAKERS HOGWARTS HAD SEEN, AND HAGRID COMPARES 
THEM TO F/G. (POA Chap 10) So During their school years, harder to 
trust them. 

SOMEONE SUGGESTED LUPIN WOULD NOT NOTICE PETTIGREW IN HAGRID'S HUT. 
But remember, Lupin took the map to look for Sirius sneaking into 
Hogwarts to kill Harry. Lupin would have looked at EVERYTHING on the 
map.

> Tim <evangelist...> wrote:
>
> 4. To me it doesn't appear too difficult to get into the Slytherin 
> Common Room, and as it isn't  that big of a school, and the 
resentment 
> felt by the marauders toward slyth's and allies, that isn't too 
> surprising. <SNIP>
> 
> What would MWPP be doing there? Snape comes to mind.
> 
> HOw? Two Words - invisibility cloak oh and fearlessness (three)

HAGRID / AUSSIE now:
OK, SO ANY THEORIES ON HOW THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED / HURT MWPP'S 
OPINION OF SNAPE? - Only Lupin (and Peter) knew Snape became a 
Hogwarts professor.

> Tim <evangelist...> wrote:
> 
> As for Peter's mapmaking skill, I thik enough has been said in 
> canon to show that Pettigrew's talent only stretches ads far as 
> the wizard instructing him. Cos & GoF and I would personally 
> prefer not to think to highly of him.

HAGRID / AUSSIE now:
EVEN GUILDEROY LOCKHART HAD A SPELL HE WAS EFFICIENT AT. If Peter 
has map making skills and able to overcome "Unplottable" Spells to 
do it, LV may have invited a DE into the group with a devistating 
talent that could repay the life debt to Harry.








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