Prank question - Lupin wanted Snape DEAD? Still don't quite buy it.

[Renee]

No: HPFGUIDX 154289

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> wrote:
>
>  
> > > Pippin:
> > > Lupin has done a whole lot of things 
> > > that aren't heroic besides the near gangland slaying of Pettigrew.
> > > Failing to tell Dumbledore about Sirius, failing to turn in the 
> > > Marauder's Map,, leaving Ron to suffer with his broken leg,
> > > (and isn't it *interesting* that Lupin says he's not so good
> > > with healing spells, now that we find out that Snape is) --
> > > and failing to write to Harry before going on his
> > > secret mission.
> 
> > Renee:
> > Aren't you overdoing it a little now? I'd be hard put to find a less
> > well-meaning description of the way Lupin handled Ron's predicament
> > than "Leaving Ron to suffer with his broken leg". (Though I wouldn't
> > be surprised if you could.)
> > 
> > Let's have a look at the text. When Ron's in pain, shortly after
> > Lupin's demasque as a werewolf, Lupin starts toward him, looking
> > concerned, but he is rebuffed by Ron's reaction. Later, when they
> > leave the shack, he does provide Ron with a splint and bandages,
> > because as he says, he "can't mend bones nearly as well as Madam
> > Pomfrey". 
> > 
> > Compare this way of dealing with an injury to Lockhart's in CoS. He is
> > obviously incompetent with healing spells, but he tries to heal
> > Harry's arm all the same, with dire results (and I wouldn't be
> > surprised if the contrast between him and Lupin was intentional). I'd
> > prefer Lupin's approach; at least he knows he's not competent enough.
> > And what little he does do, gives Ron temporary relief: "Lupin helped
> > him to his feet; Ron put his weight gingerly on the leg and didn't
> > wince. 'That's better,' he said. 'Thanks.'" Lupin leaves Ron to
> > *suffer* with his broken leg??
> 
> Pippin:
> Yes indeed, for nearly an hour. Why didn't Lupin splint Ron's leg 
> immediately instead of waiting all that time?
> 
> Because Ron rebuffed him? Lupin, the adult professor, let a fourteen
year
> old kid decide whether he needed first aid? Compare that to Tonks in
> HBP, who tends to Harry's broken nose over Harry's objections. I'm
> sure that contrast was deliberate too :)
> 
> It  can't be because Lupin was intimidated by Ron's distrust --
> that didn't stop him from ordering Ron not to leave, or  from pointing 
> his wand at Scabbers, an innocent rat as far as Ron was concerned. 
> 
> 
> Pippin
>

Renee:
1) Huh? Harry doesn't object verbally; how is Tonks to know what he
thinks?? All he does is stay stock-still and close his eyes. If I were
Tonks, I'd take that for agreement, too. Compare this to Ron's almost
vicious reaction towards Lupin (a man he liked well enough when he
didn't know he was a werewolf).  
2) Tonks doesn't have other things on her mind at that moment than
finding Harry and making sure he's al right. Lupin has to try and win
the Trio's trust, convince them that Sirius is not a crazed murderer,
prevent Sirius from acting prematurely and unmask Scabbers. A rather
daunting task, given the Trio's attitude right then. The moment Ron
gives him this verbal slap in the face and rejects him, he probably
decides he'd better try and take care of the trust problem first (and
personally, I believe this was the right decision).  
3) How is Ron to know that Lupin just wants to help him, instead of
trying to do something nasty - the bl**dy werewolf? He might hurt
himself even more in his frenzy to get away if Lupin tries to approach
him. Not a good moment to act forcefully, even if it is with the best
of intentions.
4)In accordance with the casual attitude the WW displays towards
injury in general, no one seems too concerned about Ron's leg;
Hermione doesn't voice the opinion that Ron should be taken to the
hospital wing, Harry never even mentions it, while Ron himself seems
to believe he can still leave the Shrieking Shack. In fact, the only
one who mentions it before the party makes to leave the Shack is
Sirius - the one who broke it, and who later is so intent on getting
his hands on Scabbers that he falls on it. (Talking about irony...)

But I guess this whoe matter is just another example of our perception
of the various characters colouring our interpretations of what they
do, or don't do.  

Renee