[HPforGrownups] Re: Nightingale!Snape

Kemper iam.kemper at gmail.com
Sun Jun 25 14:29:32 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 154296

>  Kemper wrote earlier:
> > It is also notable that three of the characters in the short story
> are
> > reminded of something loved when they hear the song.
> >
> > The Nightingale is remarkably plain
> > ( for picture, see: pbc.codehog.co.uk/ report/nightingale.html )
> > The Nightingale heals with song.
> > The Nightingale says, more or less, that it will act the spy.
> >
> >
> > Now to Snape.
> > Though Snape has not been referred to as plain, what's remarkable
> is that
> > the reader expects certain actions from Snape's character. I'm
> going to go
> > out on a limb and say that none of us imagined Snape singing
> someone to
> > strength and health.
> >
> > Snape and Draco in the bathroom echos Fawkes and Harry in the
> Chamber . But
> > how silly, let alone inappropriate, would it look for Snape to
> bend over
> > Draco while squeezing out a tear? Having Snape chant-sing is a
> much more
> > powerful image.
> >
> > Bellatrix said that you have to mean an Unforgivable, that you
> have to
> > really want to cause the curse, that you have to enjoy it. She
> also said an
> > Unforgivable cast in righteous anger wouldn't hurt her for long.
> >
> > There's something about Snape's song. It seems to be Light
>
> Magic. <SNIP>
>
> There's something about that song.
> >
> > Phoenix. Nightingale. Snape.
>
>
> Alla responded:
>
> ... snip ...
>
> ... I cannot compare Nightingale with Snape, I mean,
> if we are to do comparisons, shouldn't the comparison work well, not
> only on Nightingale, but on the Emperor side and it seems to be that
> Emperor does not remotely resemble Draco, but more of Dumbledore,
> kind of sort of? As a figure of power?
>
> And while Nightingale nurses Emperor to health, Snape well doesn't?
>
> If you are comparing Nightingale to Snape based only on the song,
> well, I guess if you can say that Nightingale brought the misery
> upon the emperor himself by leaving and then came to treat him (
> still don't see Nightingale deliberately doing it), and Snape does
> not just heals dark curse, he heals the Dark curse invented by him.
> Oh, the irony.
>
> So, yes of course it can be pure Light magic of healing or it can be
> as Renee said self-preservation by Snape, developing cure, in case
> Snape dear accidentally cuts the wrong person.
>
> Alla, who loves Nightingale too much to ever see Snape in it.
> 
..
.

Kemper now:
Hi Alla!  My only intention was to compare Snape with the Nightingale,
and not to compare any other HP character with the Emperor.  Though if
a DE held a wand to my heart, I would have to compare the metallic
nightingale to Tom/Voldemort and therefore, the Emperor with Draco.

The metal nightingale is a beautiful piece of art as Tom was a
handsome young man.  The metal nightingale charms its listeners as Tom
charmed his peers and Hepzibah.

The Emperor is blinded by the the metal bird's beauty as Draco is
blinded with Voldemort's power/prestige.  While the Emperor hears that
the fake bird lacks heart, he denies the truth of its soullessness.
While Draco sees Voldemort's unhuman looks, he denies the truth of the
Dark Lord's inhumanity.

But these are just comparisons, the contrasts for Emperor and Draco
are clear.  Emperor is genuinely liked by those under him.  Draco is
not so much liked as he is tolerated (my impression only).
...
Gotta go to work...

Kemper, who's excited about next month's release of Night Watch,
translated from original Russian




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