[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's arrogance /Evil Snape.

[fair wynn]

No: HPFGUIDX 154356


Valky:
< But I think, you''l find that the main channel of
this debate is not split Snape Lover from Snape Hater, but between
Dumbledore's fans and Dumbledores pitiers. at least, I know that's how
it is for me, I *still* (yeah I do still...) think the Tower scene was
an orchestration of Dumbledore's genius, it's just too perfect, there
is almost no way Voldemort could *see* anything but Dumbledore
*losing*, but that's how you *win* a game of chess, the opposition
never *sees* you coming, and niether do the onlookers

wynnleaf
Exactly.  Poor, poor Dumbledore -- he spotted Tom Riddle as untrustworthy 
within 5 minutes, but can spend 16 years working with someone and still not 
have a clue.  And isn't it too bad that he's so forgiving?  Just goes to 
show where forgiveness and believing in people will get you.  Makes you 
wonder why Harry would believe anything at all from Dumbledore -- horcruxes 
included -- when he's so obviously taken in by a 16 year old Draco's schemes 
and can't see Snape's disloyalty which is so incredibly obvious.

Dumbledore is either trustworthy or he's not.   He's either a very 
intelligent wizard who has a terrific amount of insight, or he's not.  I'm 
not saying Dumbledore has to be perfect, but if Harry's the one that's right 
about Snape -- even though Dumbledore had far more knowledge of the facts 
about Snape than Harry ever did -- then Dumbledore can't be anywhere nearly 
the brilliant wizard he's supposed to be.  Instead, he becomes a very 
deluded man.   I honestly don't think JKR wants part of the "moral of the 
story" to be "forgiveness is too risky and second chances are given by blind 
fools."

In general, most people who trust Dumbledore also trust Snape.  And that 
goes for the characters, too.  Harry doesn't truly trust Dumbledore.  Yes, 
he believes  the "factual" information like this or that history of 
something, or info on the horcruxes -- but he doesn't necessarily trust 
Dumbledore's decisions, even when it is a certainty that Dumbledore knows 
more about a situation than Harry does.  For instance, Harry never trusted 
Dumbledore's opinion of Snape, even back when the only bad thing Harry knew 
about Snape was that he was an extremely unpleasant teacher.

wynnleaf

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