[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's arrogance (was Evil Snape)
fair wynn
fairwynn at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 26 16:36:31 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 154362
Ceridwen
>Since it is set up this way, I honestly do believe that Harry will
>need to break down and depend on someone besides Ron and Hermione
>even despite misgivings.
>
>Not that he got a lot of encouragement in HBP to do this! He was
>right about Draco's mission in the RoR. I think it was PAR who
>mentioned this, and Magpie who elaborated on the age link between
>Harry and Draco. I really wasn't pleased that, when Harry did as he
>had been told to do for five books, he was so badly received. But I
>think he will have to push forward, keep on trusting the people DD
>trusted despite their doubts about him and his mission. And this is
>where his 'good arrogance' comes into play. He'll have to trust
>someone, just to get information about Horcruxes. When they
>prudently advise him against 'fooling around' with that sort of
>thing, he'll have to push onward anyway. *They* will have to trust
>*him* as much as he will have to trust them. Remember that, until
>now, he's come off as an impetuous kid to an adult POV. He will need
>to be shown to be a true adult in the next book as well.
This is why I don't think of Harry's approach as so much "arrogant" as
simply a modis operandi that is a learned behavior -- primarily learned
because a great many of his experiences with adults have not lead him to an
ability to trust others. Ceriden's example of the reaction he got every
time he talked about his suspicions of Draco is excellent. He either had
adults who didn't know the situation reassuring him, or one adult --
Dumbledore -- who *did* know what was going on, but wouldn't fill him in
with any more information. This is so often Harry's experience that it's
little wonder that he'd have difficulty trusting adults.
However, he, Ron and Hermione won't have nearly enough information to find,
much less destroy the remaining horcruxes. He will *have* to talk to
someone else about it. Which is interesting because Dumbledore specifically
said not to tell anyone, leaving Harry in a difficult spot. My suspicions
are that Harry will be approached in some way by others who, unbeknownst to
Harry, already know about the horcruxes. Naturally, my guess would be
Snape. :) Anyway, I think that Dumbledore has contributed to Harry's
difficulty in going to others for advice by telling him to tell no one about
the horcruxes. And Dumbledore has contributed to this weakness of Harry's
in other ways as even though Dumbledore is supposed to be one of the most
trustworthy adults in Harry's world, Harry knows for a fact that Dumbledore
keeps a lot hidden from him.
Harry's habit of not going to others for advice, assuming that between he
and his friends he has all he needs to figure things out or take on a
particular crisis, is learned behavior because that has been what was
expected of him too often. I don't *blame* Harry for this, but I do see it
as a weakness that he will almost certainly have to grow past in book 7.
wynnleaf
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