Being Good and Evil (was:Re: Harry's arrogance (was Evil Snape)

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 27 02:45:04 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 154416

> >>Betsy Hp:
> > <snip> 
> > It's interesting though, because I think Draco has the harder   
> > path to walk and so may end up wiser than Harry.  After all,    
> > Harry hasn't had to question his definitions of good and evil.  
> > All of his friends are good and all of his foes are evil.  It's 
> > been easy for him.  While Draco is having to question his       
> > assumptions, Harry seems quite safe in keeping his.
> > <snip>

> >>Phoenixgod:
> Or you could look at it as Draco is taking longer to reach a stage 
> of wisdom that harry obtained a long time ago.  Of the two of     
> them, I would say that Harry has had the 'easier' route because   
> his judgement of friends and enemies has been better than Draco's 
> (lets just compare Ron/Hermione with Crabbe/Goyle to test that    
> theory)...

Betsy Hp:
Hi Phoenixgod! <g>  But sure, lets try comparing Crabbe and Goyle 
with Ron and Hermione.  No one is walking around with a permantly 
scarred face because of something Crabbe or Goyle did.  I'm still 
bothered by the fact that no member of the trio is bothered by 
that.  If Crabbe or Goyle *had* scarred someone like Hermione did, 
that would have been another brick in the wall.  But since it was 
Hermione, I guess it's okay?

To do a real side by side comparison is hard though, because Crabbe 
and Goyle don't have any lines of dialogue.  And I'm not sure 
they're even Draco's closest friends.  We don't know because we 
don't see Draco on his home turf.

> >>Phoenixgod:
> ...and when he is wrong he shifts gears pretty quickly.

Betsy Hp:
Really?  I'd love an example or two.  As far as I can remember Harry 
generally only turns on someone when they try to kill him or his 
friends.  Which is what it appears to be taking for Draco as well.   

> >>Phoenixgod:
> Draco has stuck to wrong assumptions for quite a long time. if he 
> is changing then he's doing it at a glacial pace.

Betsy Hp:
Oh, I don't know.  He's only sixteen in HBP.  That's a fairly young 
age to have such a crisis of his belief system.  (A crisis Harry has 
yet to have, by the way.)  And it's not like the "good guys" have 
behaved in such a stellar fashion that the rightness of their view 
point is obvious.  The Weasleys behave like thugs and their father 
uses his power to persecute Draco's father.  Dumbledore uses his 
position to promote his Gryffindors even if the rest of the school 
suffers.

Voldemort loses Draco.  The good guys don't do anything to attract 
him.  Not until Dumbledore *finally* shows that he's willing to 
protect Draco's family.  Something I doubt Draco ever thought the 
old man capable of or interested in doing.

Betsy Hp







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