Who dies?/Evil Snape

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jun 27 13:43:26 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 154432


> Alla:
> 
> I was not clear.  Sorry about that. Snape does NOT have to be a 
> Saint to save Harry, BUT IMO Snape absolutely does have to be a 
> saint to make the choice that Carol suggests would feature :
> 
> 1) To save Dumbledore OR
> 
> 2) To save Harry.
> 
> Meaning to make a choice where Snape  life is not taken into account 
> when Snape makes his decision.
> 
> As I said earlier - there is UV lurking on the horizon, so I am not 
> buying that Snape does not care whether it kicks in or not.
> 
> There may be a time frame on it, or not, but how would Snape know 
> for sure?

Pippin:
Snape has the biggest library we've seen outside Hogwarts. He's
also a recognized expert on Dark Magic. If anyone knows about
how the Vow works, he does.


> Alla:
> 
> Pippin, we have to agree to disagree here. JKR IS Christie admirer, 
> but she is NOT Christie, no?
> 
> So, I would not expect her works to be so similar to Christie, but 
> that is IMO of course.
> 
> And yes, Scabbers is ONE example that brought up as such a twist.
> 
> IMO even Fake!Moody does not count as very twisty, surprising, yes. 
> I guess, but incredibly twisty, not sure.

Pippin:
And Quirrell turning out  to be the villain wasn't twisty, and
Riddle turning out to be Voldemort wasn't twisty, and the prophecy 
turning out not to control events wasn't twisty? You see straightforward 
clues to all that?

The clues for Fake!Moody are definitely twisty. The ferret bounce,
Moody's claim that Crouch had disappeared from the Map, Tom
Riddle (Sr) having the same name as, er, Tom Riddle (Jr), and Snape's
accusations of missing polyjuice ingredients all seem to be coincidence
or invite misleading interpretations on first reading. 

 The only clue that's not twisty is Voldemort's claim that the MoM will be
"checking and re-checking identitites" which was an easily overlooked
but   perfectly straightforward message that impersonation was in play. 

Are you saying that JKR manifestly likes twists and likes Christie, 
but her work is not so similar to Christie's that it has 
Christie-ish twists? I guess we will have to disagree on that.

Pippin







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