[HPforGrownups] Re: Happy Birthday list Theory

Kemper iam.kemper at gmail.com
Wed Jun 28 15:14:17 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 154509

> Tonks responded:
> > OK If the Birthdays List Prediction Theory is correct (and we don't
> > know if it is) . Tonks is not on it. This could be because she is
> > not considered a major character. Lupin is there. All the Weasleys
> > are there. Harry, Ginny, Neville and Hermione are there. All of the
> > teachers are there.
> >
> > Others Not on it are:
> > DD - I think because there is something about his birthday we are
> > not suppose to know. Course he is also dead, so it could be the
> > Theory at work.
> >
> > Luna
> > Dudley
> > Petunia
> > Vernon
> > Mad-eye Moody
> > Flitch - isn't he a major character?
> > ?????
> >
> > Well I started this, but I don't know... who are the major players
> > here are who aren't? I mean is someone not on the list because they
> > are going to die or because they are not important?
> >
> > And isn't it interesting that none of the bad guys are on it? Only
> > Draco from the Malfoy family is there. Wonder if this means that he
> > does have a change of allegiance in the last book. And if my "good
> > guy list theory" is correct this is proof of Snape as DDM.
> >
>
> Phil again:
> Here is my list of what I consider major players not on the birthday list:
> Alastor Moody
> Albus Dumbledore
> Alice Longbottom
> Argus Filch
> Augusta Longbottom
> Bellatrix Lestrange
> Cho Chang
> Cormac McLaggen
> Cornelius Fudge
> Dean Thomas
> Dolores Umbridge
> Firenze
> Fleur Delacour
> Frank Longbottom
> Gilderoy Lockhart
> Grawp
> Gregory Goyle
> Horace Slughorn
> Kingsley Shacklebolt
> Kreacher
> Lavender Brown
> Lucius Malfoy
> Ludo Bagman
> Luna Lovegood
> Millicent Bulstrode
> Narcissa Malfoy
> Nymphadora Tonks
> Olympe Maxime
> Pansy Parkinson
> Parvati Patil
> Peter Pettigrew
> Rita Skeeter
> Rufus Scrimgeour
> Seamus Finnigan
> Sibyll Trelawney
> Sirius Black
> Tom Marvolo Riddle
> Viktor Krum
> Vincent Crabbe
> Winky
>
>
> 

Now Kemper:
Part of the interview:

Jo: The final chapter is hidden away, although it has now changed
very sightly. One character got a reprieve, but I have to say two
die that I didn't intend to die ...

Judy: Two much loved ones?

Jo: Well, you know. A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure
evil. They don't target the extras do they? They go for the main
characters, or I do.

>From Phil's list, the extras who are not pure evil, insane or a DE are:

Alice Longbottom
Argus Filch
Augusta Longbottom
Cho Chang
Cormac McLaggen
Cornelius Fudge
Dean Thomas
Dolores Umbridge
Fleur Delacour
Frank Longbottom
Gilderoy Lockhart
Gregory Goyle
Lavender Brown
Ludo Bagman
Millicent Bulstrode
Olympe Maxime
Pansy Parkinson
Parvati Patil
Rita Skeeter
Rufus Scrimgeour
Seamus Finnigan
Viktor Krum
Vincent Crabbe
Winky

Besides Seamus and Dean, I don't think the average reader is invested
in any of these characters.  Maybe Fluer and Cho.  Maybe.


Of Phil's list, the 'good' main characters (defined by me to mean
those who have willingly or unwittingly directly helped Harry move his
story forward) are:

Alastor Moody
Albus Dumbledore
Firenze
Grawp
Horace Slughorn
Kingsley Shacklebolt
Luna Lovegood
Nymphadora Tonks
Sibyll Trelawney
Sirius Black

I like that Phil has left in Albus.  I think he's still alive, too.
Though I have my reservations on Sirius returning from the dead.  But
hey, to each their own.  Of this list, Firenze, Grawp, Horace and
Sibyll are the least loved by the readers.  (How blessed it would be
if Grawp dies early?)

-Kemper




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