Being Good and Evil (was:Re: Harry's arrogance (was Evil Snape)

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03"
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:


> 
> Betsy Hp:
> You prove my point.  Why do we know Voldemort is bad?  Well, look at 
> his *actions*.  Until HBP Draco doesn't have any actions to look at 
> because Voldemort is taking a time out.  
> 
> Betsy Hp
>
Gerry
OK, lets see whar Draco knows until HBP:
- He sees a group of DE's torment the muggles at the camping. Voldy is
not involved, but his dad is, and of course this is all great fun.
- Cedric gets killed. It is clear Draco knows Voldy is back, and was
responsible for killing him. 
- There's a good chance that after CoS he found out that Daddy was
responsible for what happened then, but hej, that was excellent what
was happening then. 

Great things all. Who could possibly blame Draco not to be happy that
this excellent saviour of the Wizarding race was back? 

Betsy:
But he can take a look at 
> the actions of Harry and his friends.  And there ain't nothing there 
> pointing a big neon sign saying "these are the good guys".  

- Well, lets see: preventing the return of LV in book 1, which the
whole school knows. Granted, for Draco that would not be a plus then.
- Slaying the monster in the Chamber of Secrets, again a minus because
Draco loved what happened and actually hoped somebody died.

No, really, nothing there for Draco to go by. 

Betsy
> Generally, if you've branded someone's face, or tortured someone 
> significantly weaker than you, you're not wearing a white hat.

Gerry
- Who was tortured that Draco knows? 
- Who was branded? Marietta was not branded, she got pustules. What
puzzles me is why nobody has taken them away yet. I don't believe
Hermione is so powerful a charmer that she did something that
Flitwitch could not remove. So why did her Head of House nothing? Did
she not ask for help? 

Actually, Draco should admire that kind of thing. After all, he was
the one who tried to set things up for Harry and Ron so they would be
expelled in PS, so that is really his kind of thing. 

Gerry