Evil Hermione Was:Re: Evil Snape

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SSSusan:
>>>I mean, wasn't Pippin saying that maybe DD trusts Snape just 
because he values his friendship, same as maybe Harry trusts R/H just
because he values their friendship, even though each of those people 
may have let down their *respective* friends?  So DD may trust Snape 
because of their friendship, even if Snape has let him down, just as 
Harry trusts Hermione because of their friendship, even though she 
has let him down.  (And I was agreeing that Hermione *has* let Harry 
down.)<<<
 
Pippin:
> Yes! Thank you, SSSusan.  IMO, Dumbledore trusted Snape the way 
> Harry trusts his friends, in spite of their mistakes, because he 
> values them. I think that Dumbledore was willing to chance that 
> Snape joined Voldemort because he made a mistake, not because Snape 
> was eeevil. 

SSSusan:
Yay!!  I was hoping I'd paraphrased that accurately.


Pippin:
> But Dumbledore valued Snape for some deeper reason -- deep
> but not necessarily spectacular.
> 
> I think we may veer off track looking for a spectacular reason why 
> Dumbledore trusted Snape, just as we went off track looking for a 
> spectacular reason why Voldemort wanted to kill Harry. 

SSSusan:
It is an interesting possibility, I think.  I've been one holding out 
for something spectacular -- and I would still LIKE to see that -- 
but your original post gave me pause precisely because it made me 
stop and think, "Huh.  Maybe it really IS just that he trusts him 
because... well... he just *does,* because he values him as a friend."

And if *that* could be true, then so could it be true that the reason 
for the trust & friendship is something deeper but not necessarily 
HUGE by fandom standards.

It will be one of the things I am most anxious to discover in book 7 
(hopefully!).


Pippin:
> I think, as I said, that Dumbledore intended to tell Harry more
> of the story the night he died, but he was reluctant to do so
> because a) He had promised Snape that he wouldn't b) He didn't
> think Harry was going to be able to understand c) He thought
> Harry's misunderstanding was going to make things worse.

SSSusan:
I also like the possibility of d) He worried whether the information 
might be vulnerable to revelation to Voldy through Legillimency, 
Harry not being the best Occlumens at this point.  Although, if Voldy 
got near enough to capture Harry & Legillimens him, I suppose he'd 
not mess around with that but would, instead, just go ahead & try to 
kill the kid.  Oh, well.  It was a thought. ;-)


Siriusly Snapey Susan