Of Souls and Death - Dumbledore's Intent
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk
Wed Mar 1 20:55:07 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 148984
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...>
wrote:
Geoff:
> > I often find that if I am concentrating on, say, a conversation
in a
> noisy environment, I subconsciously filter out background noise and
> often don't even remember that a CD player or something of that ilk
> was blasting away behind me.
> >
> > If Dumbledore was concentrating hard on what Trelawney was
> prophesying, he may have been doing the same. No clinking of empty
> glasses or bawdy bar-room songs from the main area, no thuds of
> bodies being ejected... Just Sybill holding forth.
>
> Carol:
> But the whole point of a Pensieve is that it presents an objective
> record of a memory, including what the perceiver filtered out at the
> time or has since forgotten, without any of the subconscious changes
> that we make to our own memories when we recall them to ourselves.
> IOW, it acts as a *sieve* to filter out subjectivity. So the figure
of
> Sibyll rising from the Pensieve has nothing to do with DD's level of
> concentration and everything to do with what she really said and how
> she really appeared.
Geoff:
But you are creating a paradox. If the perceiver has filtered out
items from their objective memory, then those memories are not there
to be presented and the Pensieve cannot restore them.
The point I was trying (slightly humorously) to make was merely
picking up on Miles' comment with reference to background noise etc.
So I would take the view that Sybill rising from the Pensieve
has /everything/ to do with Dumbledore's level of concentration.
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