Snape: Beyond Good and Evil (long)
lunamk03
imontero at iname.com
Thu Mar 2 18:13:07 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 149031
aorta47 wrote:
> "What is done out of love always occurs beyond good and evil."
>
> -Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> So if you can argue that Snape acted out of a love (a hard
> argument to make), than his actions are beyond the ideas of "good"
> or "evil."
>
> Mark
> who admits he really just likes this thread title, but if someone
> wants to run with this idea, go ahead.
Luna here:
I was planning to start a new thread called "Harry's eyes, Snape,
Voldemort and DD: wrapping it all together"
But this phrase kind of summarizes my point...
This is my take on what I think will happen:
It has always been discussed what kind of "power" Harry has in his
eyes that he might have inherited from Lily. I think that Jo has
already started to give us some clues as to what the nature of
this "power" in his eye is.
In Order of the Phoenix and in Half Blood Prince as well as in Jo's
interview to Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron, we learn that Lily was a
very popular girl. We know that Slughorn had a weakness for her: she
was a brilliant potion maker; he doesn't stop comparing
Harry's "talent" for potions with his mother's. My guess is that he
also chose Ginny for his club because somehow Ginny seemed to remind
him of Lily, Jo did say that Lily was, like Ginny, a popular girl.
Evidence in PoA (book and film) points out to the possibility that
James and Slughorn weren't the only ones to be more than fond of
Lily.
We have Lupin, who was suspected at first by Sirius and probably by
James himself of being Voldemort possible spy. Why Lupin? In PoA
film, according to Jo herself, Cuaron seemed to have been toying
around with something that gives us clues as to what's really going
on. My guess is that she was talking about Lupin's conversation
about Lily with Harry. According to him, Lily saw the beauty that
some people were unable to see in themselves. I think that Lupin
too, had developed feelings of love towards Lily, this might have
caused some kind of mistrust from Sirius and James' side, this is
the reason why they didn't choose him as their secret keeper.
Now, what about Snape?
How come that Snape's single worst memory involves him being
humiliated in front of Lily? Then, it always clicked me as unusual
that Voldemort didn't want to kill Lily at first. Why?
According to DD, Snape was devastated after learning about what
happened to the Potters. Why? Why should he be devastated, he
should've been celebrating James' death.
What did DD know about Snape that made him blindly believe in him?
Also, we know that Lily and Snape might have been in the same year,
probably studying Potions together. I can see Lily, defender of the
underdogs, helping or wanting to help Snape. I can see a reluctant
Snape developing feelings of love towards her but not being able (or
knowing how) to express them other than insulting her or treating
her badly, as we can see in his memory when she defends him from
James. It also seemed to me that James knew that by attacking Snape,
he would catch Lily's attention. James knew she would come to
Snape's defense, which means that he was aware of Lily's protective
attitude towards Snape. I wonder how many of Snape notes in his
Potion books actually came from Lily's advices or discoveries.
This might explain as well why Snape's major issues were with James,
not with Sirius who was even worst to him than James, after all, it
was Sirius who almost got Snape killed.
I can see Snape begging Voldemort not to kill Lily, as Voldemort's
most appreciated follower and as an award for finding out about the
prophecy, Voldemort agreed to kill only the child and James, not
her. This would explain why he was telling Lily to clear out. At
the end, she didn't give Voldemort the choice, he had to kill her.
This must have devastated Snape, he must have felt miserably guilty
and broken hearted. DD knew about Snape's feelings, this is why he
never doubted Snape.
All these years, Snape has been seeing Harry as the portrait of his
father, as the reminder of what he never had with Lily, but there
is something that must be eating Snape away: And here is where we're
coming back to the power in Harry's eyes: Harry has Lily's eyes and
this is a detail that Snape won't be able to evade forever.
My thesis is that Snape returned to Voldemort for vengeance, he
wants to make Voldemort pay for Lily's death, his rage is so blind
that he killed DD because at that point, DD was the only thing
standing between Voldemort and him. He needed to get rid of DD in
order to get as close as ever to Voldemort. The problem is that he
doesn't have the power to kill Voldemort, Harry does.
The Power in Harry's eyes is having Lily's eyes to make the people
who loved her help him. At one point, Snape will see Lily through
Harry's eyes and this will ultimately break Snape down with the
result of him joining forces with, or giving his live for Harry thus
enabling Harry to continue and kill Voldemort. Deep down, Snape
knows he'll need Harry to kill Voldemort, this is the main reason
why Harry is still alive: i.e. Snape hasn't killed him and has
indirectly protected him.
This is the power in Harry's eyes. In HBP we learn that the deepest
and most powerful magic does not usually comes with big flashy
tricks, it is deep down very simple, yet terribly powerful, as
powerful as the feeling of someone who's lost probably the first
person to stand up for him, to see in him the beauty that no one
else saw (not even his own family, as we can see in Snape's other
memories) and who's seen a flash of her soul in her son's eyes.
Luna
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