[HPforGrownups] CHAPDISC: HBP11, Hermione's Helping Hand

[P J]

No: HPFGUIDX 149033



Ginger:

>Nonverbal spells are now expected, although Harry notes that others are
>having as much trouble as he is.  Could this be a part of the reason
>Snape is later annoyed by Harry's inability to cast them by the end of
>the book?  Did Hermione do her Confundus on Cormac nonverbally?  Do we
>ever see Ron do one?

Snape is always annoyed with Harry.  It's just an oil and water pairing.

I think if anyone in the class manages to do a nonverbal spell it'd be 
Hermione first per usual.  And I do believe she'd do the Confundus as a NV 
spell since she would be afraid of being overheard.  I never noticed Ron 
doing one but I may have missed it.


>What do you think of Hermione's casting the Confundus?

It amazed me!  She's always the one who disapproves of breaking the rules 
and here she was casting a Confundus?  Guess she'll do anything for her guy 
- even if he doesn't know he is yet.  :)

>Stan Shunpike is arrested.  Other than the trio's say-so, do we have
>any evidence that he is actually innocent?  Their meetings with him
>have been brief, and the Dark Lord doesn't seem to have a pre-entrance
>IQ test for his minions.

At this point in the story we don't have any real proof but later in the 
story the MoM just about comes right out and admits Stan is no DE.


>Would Cormac have made the team last year instead of Ron?

He might've made the team but I don't think he would've remained a part of 
the team long.   He was so busy micromanaging everyone else's plays that he 
didn't keep his mind on his own position.  He's a lousy team player.

Oh, and I do believe the twins were the ones who made the bet on the doxy 
eggs.  It's just like them!  :)

>There is lots of SHIPping foreshadowing in this chapter:  Ron/Lavender,
>Ron/Hermione, Cormac/Hermione.  I don't have any real questions, but
>feel free to comment, remembering to use the SHIP prefix if it is a
>SHIPping post as per our rules ;o)

This was my least favorite book because of all the shipping in it.  I 
thought it took up way too much space that could've been used to snip other 
important threads.

>I hope you all enjoy your discussion.

Thankyou for putting this together for us.  Your job couldn't have been an 
easy one.  :)

PJ