[HPforGrownups] Re: Trusting Snape

[P J]

No: HPFGUIDX 149069



 > SSSusan:
 > Of course she doesn't tell us what "Severus, please" does or
>doesn't mean!  Doesn't it speak volumes that, after SIX books, people are
 > still scratching their heads and arguing about Severus Snape?

PJ:
<smile>  Yes.  She's having a lot of fun with us.

Magpie:
>Instead Dumbledore please as soon as Snape enters the room.  His
>first "Severus," the one that frightens Harry so much, is right
>after Snape enters.  Amycus is telling Snape Draco doesn't seem to
>be able to do it, and DD breaks in with his first
>pleading, "Severus..."  The "Severus, please..." seems a
>continuation of that, not a totally new, opposite idea.

You're 100% right.  The first "Severus" was, to my mind, relief from a very 
weakened man that now things are ok.  Snape is on the scene and will take 
care of everything.  This works just fine if, as I expect, Dumbledore 
doesn't know about the 3rd provision in the UV.

The second "Severus... please" is where he's expressing his realization that 
no, things are definitely NOT ok and that the man he's trusted and defended 
to everyone for so long is, after all, going to betray him.

Magpie:
><snipped> Here we've got a big
>clue on Snape's face, the look of revulsion.  But I think it would
>be cheating in the way JKR doesn't cheat to pass over Dumbledore's
>moment of horror where he realizes the very person he'd been
>trusting can't be trusted.

Revulsion can be a sign that he's looking at a man who's pulled his strings 
for too many years.  A visible sign that he despises Dumbledore for his 
"weakness" of trying to find the good in everyone and the tendency of seeing 
what he wants to see even if it never existed.

No need for Dumbledore's moment of horror, just a deep abiding sadness in 
his own folly

Magpie:
>It's still ambiguous.

PJ:

Yes, but thankyou for having an open mind about the possibility.    :-)


PJ (3rd and last post for the day)